:iagree: 100%:cheers:

:iagree:Sounds more like a rant to me rather than objective journalism that the OP would suggest.:willy: GM has never tried to satisfy all people all the time. They know that is an impossibility. If anyone doubts it, just read the posts here about the C7. :lol:

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The days of a car design being a one-man-band (aka: Duntov) are over. And even with Zora, GM started over-rulling his ideas in the mid 1970's.

Tadge used focus group data to make a lot of the C7 design decisions. They want as many people to like the car (and purchase it) as possible.

I'd imagine for every nit-pic the OP would mention, Tadge could show data that would suggest this would of hurt sales - not increase them.

BTW, the OP did say he thought they got" 90% of the C7 right".... so he's not bashing the entire car.

Just give the car a year for the looks to "normalize". Time will soften the lines, also with new cars like the NSX, ELR; the C7 will not look so.....buisy...

I like it! So for every guy that bitches another will give him a pat on the back.

Once again, these are nothing but your own opinions and you have no data to support that they are not a "minority opinion".
To suggest that only those "who have a critical appreciation of aesthetic and proportional beauty" would agree with your opinions is laughable at best.
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The design team, the product team and many members of the core Corvette team make themselves widely available to owners at several events throughout the year (ALMS Corrals, NCM events like the Bash in April, Carlisle to name a few). With that said it is in a public setting and questions are generally answered on a first come first served basis while time permits based on the venue and the planned agenda.

Frankly, I'm not sure what you would get for responses based on the "questions" you've listed here. These really do seem more like individiual complaints that you would like addressed over and above the 90% of the content that you like.

Based on your original post, you can firmly count me as one who is outside of your "consensus". I like and completely support what has been done for the 2014 Corvette and I've made opinion known publicly and privately.

I would assume then, that every design would go through the same chain of command, even the design of the Aztek.........

You'd probably be the 10,000th person to ask him about the tailights. He'd probably tell you that, smile, and point out why they're staying.

I love the car - all of it. I do respect everyone's opinions on it as well but where I disagree is with someone putting hard numbers (60% feel blah) to their opinions when, in fact, you can't possibly have any idea what others are thinking. It reminds me of our news media talking about how "most Americans..." when I know what they are trying to convey is their own personal message.

I am not sure where you came up with the "Overwhelming concensus" about the tail. The vast majority of the stuff I read is very positive and it is clearly not the minority.

The question: Did the designers really not see this??? is pointless as well. They knew exactly what they were doing and looked at numerous different possibilities before deciding on the final design. It is a little arrogant to claim that they missed something and that if they checked with you first they could have come up with a design that everyone would have liked.

If it bugs you too much don't buy one. If you get a chance to talk with Tadge I am willing to bet everything I own that they won't make a single change after you straighten him out.

Yes, in fact I do think I have a fine eye for design. I am an artist, talented with the pencil, chalk, brush, etc. Most members of my family have this talent, and I admit I sometimes just can't see why everyone can't draw? I have concluded that some just can't reconcile what their eyes see with proper relation to lines, placements, colors, etc.

I guess it's the natural talent in me that makes "aesthetic wrongs" stick out like a sore thumb when others claim not to understand. :crazy: And yes, there ARE clear areas some venture into that "just don't work/you just don't do!" Mixing plaids and stripes as a fashion would be an example.
I never said they should have checked with me. I'd merely like to hear the thought process behind some of the odd decisions, .. none of which have anything to do with the hard design itself, but rather items of "trim" that can visually swing a project from positive to negative?
I have never said anything about the tail lights. I happen to be among those who love the tail lights! My problem is the busy activity of all the stuff crammed into the rear. There is a photochop out there that shows the car's rear toned down that is among the most gorgeous of any car I've ever seen ... and it has the new tail lights.
Thanks for pointing that out, for those who still think this was originally a post about not liking the design, when it's actually about accessorized decisions only.

I don't know who the "majority" and "minority" are on the overall design issue. In the C7 forum, the majority is positive. Other places you read at are different.

And I'm not so sure sales will represent the answer to the question. Because that daggum gorgeous front end will sell that car even if the buyer hates the rear.




















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:iagree: It just maybe the predomindent design trend of the auto industry in the years to come. The vette will settle and find its place as well as rank among the other design offerings around a similiar or related theme.

Same old nitpicking.:ack: Most people love it and in a couple years there will mostly be two kinds of people interested in late model Vettes here. Those that have a C7 or those that wish they did. There will probably still be a few diehards around however who gloat over their round taillights on their C6 and still swear they will never change I suppose.

I have had 27 new Corvettes since 1972. You really would thing that someone from Chevrolet/GM/Corvette would have asked me something about Corvettes by now. And dont think I havent tried talking to some of these people. The point is they really dont want to talk to us. They know what they want to do and then they do it. They have shown that with there offers of colors, there option packages being offered. They are not interested in what we want, but only what they want us to have. Its a sad sad subject. The way they do business sent them into a Bankruptcy. Did they learn from the Bankruptcy. I dont think so. Its the same old GM doing the same old thing ...

I'm just glad that the C7's designers had the forethought to add the steps on the front bumper for the 4 year old kid, walking by a C7 in a parking lot(restaurant, motel, etc), to use so he doesn't have to strain himself trying to climb on the hood of the car, to look into the vents to see what they are.

:iagree: 1000%

And what would you say to him?.....Im not seeing the point yet

Met Ed Welburn at an Awards banquet about 3 weeks back. I just told him "Thank You"

I look at "art" and design like music. There are incredibly talented musicians (meaning those who write and perform music) who make music that sounds horrible to much of the population. People have very different tastes in music.

Just because you and your family has a talent for design does not mean that what you come up with everyone is going to like. I am 99.9% sure you understand that. As such, certainly you are not so arrogant as to think that just because you don't like something means it's bad, are you?

I happen to agree with most of what you don't like about the car. But I have a very close friend who is also a huge car nut who loves all the stuff that you and I don't like. Which one of us is wrong? BTW, he is on a list to buy a C7, so I'm pretty sure that GM thinks he is right.