I'm not Dub, but I can tell you what we used on my '71. We didn't use any epoxy as we took it down to bare 'glass so the K36 went on directly on top of the 'glass. We used a good gallon and a half, almost 2. In retrospect I should have bought my HVLP gun earlier and we would probably have made it on 1 gallon. We used a 30 year old sharpe that blew more primer into the air than onto the car.
It was then covered with 1 gallon base (solid red) and 1.5 gallons of clear. It looks, if I may say so, spectacular.
Interesting....No Dp epoxy. I too stripped mine to bare glass. I will have some bodywork to cover, but it worked well for you using no epoxy I take it? Have to think about that.
And zwede... did you use a gallon and a half of clear after it was reduced? Or did you actually buy a gallon and a half and then reduce it? Same question for the K36.
I was busy and what can I say... 78anniversary...I PM'd you with the answer to your question. My answer will start a "fued" of epic proportions...and truthfully...I am not into defending what I use...because...I know it works.
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but it worked well for you using no epoxy I take it?
My understanding (which is not shared by everyone on this forum) is that epoxy primer is a sealer and is recommended if you don't take the panels down to 'glass. The epoxy primer then seals the old paint (probably lacquer) from the new paint (probably urethane) and prevents a reaction.
But if the panels are down to 'glass there's nothing to seal. The 'glass itself is sealed with the K36.
Yes, this worked fine for me. We started shooting primer in the spring of 2008, finished the last primer fall 2009 when it was painted. Never had any rejection, fisheyes, bubbles or anything at all.
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And zwede... did you use a gallon and a half of clear after it was reduced? Or did you actually buy a gallon and a half and then reduce it? Same question for the K36.
Nope. Had to buy a gallon and a half of clear and K36.
i spray ppg, you should be fine with 3qts of paint. their bases' mix 1:1 soso you would have 1.5 ga once you reduce it. and just buy a gallon kit of clear. a kit will give you the activator also. what ppg base are you using? omni, omni plus, dbc, or global? same question for clear? their cheaper clear mixes either 2:1 or 4:1, i believe, but their better clear, 2021, mixes 4:1:1, 4 parts clear, 1 part activator, & 1 part reducer, so you end up with more. plus, you are supposed to spray only 2-3 coats of cleat in one session. or so says my ppg paint rep. also, i would use their DT series reducers, DT885 is a good slow redeucer. will allow your metallics to ly down.
those are good products. that clear is amazing. if we do an all over paint job, with two good coats on a regular sized car, not talking about an astro van or somethin, we have clear left over. but if you are doing jambs and all you should be fine still. in your jambs, you dont need but one coat usually.
an like i said, dbc mixes 1:1, so a full ga would give you two ga mixed. that should be more than enough.
are you spraying everything apart then putting it together painted? or are you spraying your jambs first, then putting it together to paint the outside?
I am going to paint the door jambs then install the doors, bumpers etc, then paint the car.
What type paint gun are you using...gravity feed or suction type...and if it is HVLP or not HVLP.
The only reason I am asking is that I have been using HVLP gravity feed paint guns for so long now...that it has been a very long time since I have ever had to buy a gallon of base ( which makes 2 gallons) in order so spray a complete Corvette ( any year model).
In many cases (solid reds and blacks)I can do it in two quarts...but I mix three for future touch-up ...if needed. It will all depend in the system you choose and the strength of their colors so you get to complete hiding without excessive coats.
That is where the question comes into play...buy more paint and apply more because it may be cheaper...but I have to apply more of it...or get a better covering paint that may cost more but covers quickly....and do not have to buy as much. It may also depend on what is available in your area. In the DBC line..it will all depend on the ratio of strong toners versus the weaker toners in the formula and how it sprays out. Thge person mixing the color should be able to tell you how strong the paint is in regards to its covering ability due to these toners. If not...send me the formula and I can find out for you....unless you just want to buy a gallon of basecoat.
Do not forget that you will get better paint transfer (more on the panel...and less overspray)with a HVLP paint gun versus a conventional paint gun. There is a difference. Just in case you were not aware of it.
yeah, thats normally what i do also. i know dub has already replied to you, but if anything comes up and cant get a reply soon enough, feel free to ask. would be happy to help with any info that might help
dbc usually covers in three coats, but that depends on how you spray also. if you were to use their omni or omni plus, you may want to spray 4-5 coats, as it is not as strong. i priced some out for an all over i was doing for a customer the other day. they wanted a cheaper all over to get rid of a car. i called my rep up and asked what my prices would be between omni and dbc, dbc was @ 120 for a three pints, and @ 35 for omni. so i went ahead and got a half a gallon in omni to make sure i had enough. but we were not doing the jambs. but i do have enough to make roughly @ half gallon more. and it was a convert, so no roof to paint
I have a Walcom Geo FX92 Garvity feed HVLP with a 1.5 tip. Still think 3 qts of base will be good? Base is mixed 1:1 to will have 6 Qts sprayable. Also clear is 4:1:1 so will have 6 qts sprayable of that also.
I have a Walcom Geo FX92 Garvity feed HVLP with a 1.5 tip. Still think 3 qts of base will be good? Base is mixed 1:1 to will have 6 Qts sprayable. Also clear is 4:1:1 so will have 6 qts sprayable of that also.
Not ever used that gun ...but I am sure that it is a quality paint gun. With a 1.5 tip for your base and clear....if your are planning on using it for both applications. You may need to watch on how you set your fluid control setting on the gun in relation to your air pressure so you can get the base and clear to go on as desired. I am sure that you have "dialed it in" in the past...and know where to set it.
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