Cybertruck now officially in Production.
#102
Melting Slicks
I agree with other that this thing is butt ugly. Ugly enough for me to not buy one. That, and probably the pricing will be too high to justify.
Living in northern NV near the Gigaplant, I occasionally talk to Tesla employees (even sold a car to one or their engineers). I always tell them the same thing, I want a Jeep Grand Cherokee sized SUV from Tesla at a reasonable price with similar interior quality. And one that is not uglier than sin. Just make a normal looking vehicle.
I can live with 250 mile range (not their pie in the sky projections using a driver only, no extra weight, perfectly flat roads in warm weather conditions) although a 500 mile range would be ideal. I'd like to see 30" all terrain tires on it for decent trail running (doesn't need to be a rock crawler) with ground clearance. Kind of like a Rubicon edition. If they could offer this at $50K, I'd be in.
Living in northern NV near the Gigaplant, I occasionally talk to Tesla employees (even sold a car to one or their engineers). I always tell them the same thing, I want a Jeep Grand Cherokee sized SUV from Tesla at a reasonable price with similar interior quality. And one that is not uglier than sin. Just make a normal looking vehicle.
I can live with 250 mile range (not their pie in the sky projections using a driver only, no extra weight, perfectly flat roads in warm weather conditions) although a 500 mile range would be ideal. I'd like to see 30" all terrain tires on it for decent trail running (doesn't need to be a rock crawler) with ground clearance. Kind of like a Rubicon edition. If they could offer this at $50K, I'd be in.
#103
Safety Car
"Tesla is aiming to make 200,000 units of its electric pickup truck, Cybertruck, per year, Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk said on Tuesday.
The company had earlier said that Tesla had the capacity to make more than 125,000 Cybertrucks annually, with Musk adding there was potential to lift it to 250,000 in 2025.
The deliveries of the much-awaited pickup truck will begin on Nov. 30
The company had earlier said that Tesla had the capacity to make more than 125,000 Cybertrucks annually, with Musk adding there was potential to lift it to 250,000 in 2025.
The deliveries of the much-awaited pickup truck will begin on Nov. 30
#104
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. . . Gonna Hold Out . . .
For . . . The Rounded ~ Retractible Top ~ LS2 390 HP Version to Come outta the Tesla Texas Giga~Factory . . .
Cuz that Angular ~ Battery Powered Golf Cart Motor ~ Version . . . Just aint doin' it fer me
GM Done got them Surplus Crate Motors they can Sell to Elon in Bulk for some Line Time at his new plant ~
For . . . The Rounded ~ Retractible Top ~ LS2 390 HP Version to Come outta the Tesla Texas Giga~Factory . . .
Cuz that Angular ~ Battery Powered Golf Cart Motor ~ Version . . . Just aint doin' it fer me
GM Done got them Surplus Crate Motors they can Sell to Elon in Bulk for some Line Time at his new plant ~
#106
Burning Brakes
Not good at all....
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/leaked-v...00129.htmlThat discussion topic entered the fray after an X (formerly known as Twitter) account posted a video of the aftermath of a “ditch rollover” test involving two of the angular trucks. The post was later deleted, but the video ended up archived on a Cybertruck fan forum.
One interesting thing revealed by the video, according to Electrek, is that it adds evidence to the theory that the Cybertruck is not actually built with a revolutionary “exoskeleton” construction, as Tesla has claimed, but instead with a traditional unibody frame. The exoskeleton was the supposed reason for the vehicle’s unique and often controversial appearance.
“Mainstream repair facilities will not touch this,” wrote one Electrek commenter. “I have been in the insurance industry for years and have had struggles finding ‘Tesla Certified’ repair facilities in our area.
“When we do find them the process is 3x wait and much higher costs. I am getting the vibe that this will be kind of a disposable truck when it comes down to major damages. Make sure you have gap insurance.”
Another wrote: “So what we know so far is that the truck that everyone assumed was a prank when it rolled onto the floor because it was so ugly, that was hyped with unbreakable windows that they broke in the demo, that would have exoskeleton construction, and would revolutionize the industry years ago, in reality is even uglier, has huge manufacturing issues, fit and finish QC problems that are even worse than are normal for a company that is a global joke in that area, still hasn’t changed windows in any way, is not an exoskeleton, and still isn’t on sale.
“But good news: you can hardly tell it has been in a rollover because the panels never matched anyway.”
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/leaked-v...00129.htmlThat discussion topic entered the fray after an X (formerly known as Twitter) account posted a video of the aftermath of a “ditch rollover” test involving two of the angular trucks. The post was later deleted, but the video ended up archived on a Cybertruck fan forum.
One interesting thing revealed by the video, according to Electrek, is that it adds evidence to the theory that the Cybertruck is not actually built with a revolutionary “exoskeleton” construction, as Tesla has claimed, but instead with a traditional unibody frame. The exoskeleton was the supposed reason for the vehicle’s unique and often controversial appearance.
“Mainstream repair facilities will not touch this,” wrote one Electrek commenter. “I have been in the insurance industry for years and have had struggles finding ‘Tesla Certified’ repair facilities in our area.
“When we do find them the process is 3x wait and much higher costs. I am getting the vibe that this will be kind of a disposable truck when it comes down to major damages. Make sure you have gap insurance.”
Another wrote: “So what we know so far is that the truck that everyone assumed was a prank when it rolled onto the floor because it was so ugly, that was hyped with unbreakable windows that they broke in the demo, that would have exoskeleton construction, and would revolutionize the industry years ago, in reality is even uglier, has huge manufacturing issues, fit and finish QC problems that are even worse than are normal for a company that is a global joke in that area, still hasn’t changed windows in any way, is not an exoskeleton, and still isn’t on sale.
“But good news: you can hardly tell it has been in a rollover because the panels never matched anyway.”
#107
Race Director
Moot point now. Ram just dominated the segment. All these pure BEV truck programs should just spin down and take their huge financial losses. You'd have to be an a real fool to buy one over this series hybrid PHEV.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
#108
Team Owner
Moot point now. Ram just dominated the segment. All these pure BEV truck programs should just spin down and take their huge financial losses. You'd have to be an a real fool to buy one over this series hybrid PHEV.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
#109
Safety Car
Moot point now. Ram just dominated the segment. All these pure BEV truck programs should just spin down and take their huge financial losses. You'd have to be an a real fool to buy one over this series hybrid PHEV.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
We expect the Ram 1500 REV to start around $58,000. For reference, the electric Ford F-150 Lightning currently starts at $59,974. And like the Lightning Platinum, a fully loaded Ram 1500 REV Tungsten is sure to top $100,000.
#110
Race Director
Moot point now. Ram just dominated the segment. All these pure BEV truck programs should just spin down and take their huge financial losses. You'd have to be an a real fool to buy one over this series hybrid PHEV.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/06/th...generator/amp/
Im watching. This is getting interesting. 😎
#111
Race Director
The Ramcharger is the first electric truck that has me sitting up paying attention. It looks like a truck, tows like a truck and has excellent range. Using the V6 as a generator instead of part of the power train is interesting. You get 600 plus miles with it, tow 14,000 lbs and go 0 to 60 in 4.4 seconds. And you can power your house or job site with it.
Im watching. This is getting interesting. 😎
Im watching. This is getting interesting. 😎
#112
You know the humanity is nearing end when people are thinking that something that ugly is cool and desirable.
#114
Team Owner
Thread Starter
#115
Race Director
Agreed. They had it done in a really fair way. You need to get rid of it, you sell it to Tesla and they recondition it.
They should just have told people that they'd OTA shut the thing down if ownership changes in the first 12 months.
They should just have told people that they'd OTA shut the thing down if ownership changes in the first 12 months.
#116
Team Owner
Thread Starter
or ban flipped cars from supercharging.
#117
Race Director
Or both. Honestly even just the threat and a few faked YouTube videos would probably be enough to do it
I do think Tesla had a fair system. It's not the right car for you, or you need to get out of it for whatever reason, they depreciate it based on mileage and condition. Really fair way to do it.
I think the fact that they pulled back on it means they likely are expecting limited production for a while, and that the reservations they have are not buyers, they're largely investors. Tesla probably figured out that a VERY high % of people in line intent to flip the cars almost immediately, and that they'd lose a bunch of money if those people got their refunds on their spots, and would lose a lot potential sales.
I still think it's the wrong call.
I do think Tesla had a fair system. It's not the right car for you, or you need to get out of it for whatever reason, they depreciate it based on mileage and condition. Really fair way to do it.
I think the fact that they pulled back on it means they likely are expecting limited production for a while, and that the reservations they have are not buyers, they're largely investors. Tesla probably figured out that a VERY high % of people in line intent to flip the cars almost immediately, and that they'd lose a bunch of money if those people got their refunds on their spots, and would lose a lot potential sales.
I still think it's the wrong call.
#120
Race Director
Which enabled them to buy those warm meals during the forced charging stops on long highway trips, while never venturing very far from the charging stations located on Interstate highways. But that's ok because we allow the car to schedule our route for us, we don't decide how we want to go.