MT : 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 vs. 2015 Nissan GT-R Nismo Comparison
02-05-2015, 04:41 PM
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Good question and one that's been on my mind too. MC who has experience with the Nismo and the regular GT-R will have some thoughts on this. I think the standard 2014 GT-R is capable of a 1:27:XX run but the Z06 will have the edge.
02-05-2015, 05:28 PM
#382
Race Director
maybe they bought them for bragging rights...do you really think that even half the ppl who bought (or are buying) the new "most track capable" corvette ever are really ever going to see the track...
02-05-2015, 09:03 PM
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Well I guess we'll have to wait for the A8 to be tested. 
02-06-2015, 09:44 AM
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.You make it seem like the ACR is un-drivable haha. I also use to own an 01' ACR long time ago, now that I'll agree was a tad over kill street or track b/c they had 1100lb springs in the rear, previous ones had a Koni setup that was softer. 01/02 was great if you drove on a perfectly smooth track, but that rear spring was way to firm for bumps etc, I ended up doing a Moton setup, others swapped out for softer springs. But regardless, ACR was just as drivable on the street as the regular Viper, just so happened to also obliterate others on track 
.Looking forward to what is released for next ACR and I'll be back in the saddle, friend has a TA 2.0 deposit and may cancel. If they bring out the ACR, honestly not sure what the point on the TA 2.0 is?
02-06-2015, 01:45 PM
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interesting thread... nice to see that CF tried to bury it.
a year ago I was planning to upgrade my C4S for either a Z06 or used DBA GTR. I decided I didn't want to wait and didn't want to pay the premium for a z06 and got the GTR (which BTW, couldn't be happier owning).
A little surprised at the results. Sounds like heat soak is a significant problem for the car. I still think that the Z06 is a great car, just surprised that you can't access all of the hp after a few laps.
Regarding comparing cars of different price points, well it happens all the time. GTR is often compared to much more expensive cars like 458, LP-560, MP-12c so I do think it's a fair comparison. There's no doubt that the Z06 is a relative "bargain" but the purpose of the article was lap times, not bang for the buck. And BTW, in the GTR boards, most GTR owners think that Randy doesn't like the GTR and he always seems to be critical of it or damning with faint praise...
a year ago I was planning to upgrade my C4S for either a Z06 or used DBA GTR. I decided I didn't want to wait and didn't want to pay the premium for a z06 and got the GTR (which BTW, couldn't be happier owning).
A little surprised at the results. Sounds like heat soak is a significant problem for the car. I still think that the Z06 is a great car, just surprised that you can't access all of the hp after a few laps.
Regarding comparing cars of different price points, well it happens all the time. GTR is often compared to much more expensive cars like 458, LP-560, MP-12c so I do think it's a fair comparison. There's no doubt that the Z06 is a relative "bargain" but the purpose of the article was lap times, not bang for the buck. And BTW, in the GTR boards, most GTR owners think that Randy doesn't like the GTR and he always seems to be critical of it or damning with faint praise...
02-07-2015, 04:28 AM
#387
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same as last time
You say its the same as last time just bigger, I disagree and can say you did not look at the completely layout of the C7. What an incredibly inaccurate statement. Kindly tell us just what is the same as the C6 - engine, trans, exhaust, suspension, wheels, tires. Go ahead, tells us!
This is why I have always said more and bigger is not better. Typical American sports car mentality. Lets add more power, more down force, wider tires, bigger brakes and sell it. There is no true innovative engineering going on. Japanese guys created an outstanding engineering master piece. And look what that GT3 with its tiny 3.6 liter 475 hp engine can accomplish! And you guys hate me for saying this.
Detroit needs to do more than this. We need proper innovation. Proper transmission, drive terrain, proper aerodynamics. Look at all wheel turning in porsche, look at the traction and gearing in NISMO. Chevy is still the same car from last time with just more and bigger components and some make up (internal improvements, pdr, etc).
Detroit needs to do more than this. We need proper innovation. Proper transmission, drive terrain, proper aerodynamics. Look at all wheel turning in porsche, look at the traction and gearing in NISMO. Chevy is still the same car from last time with just more and bigger components and some make up (internal improvements, pdr, etc).
02-07-2015, 02:09 PM
#388
Le Mans Master
This is why I have always said more and bigger is not better. Typical American sports car mentality. Lets add more power, more down force, wider tires, bigger brakes and sell it. There is no true innovative engineering going on. Japanese guys created an outstanding engineering master piece. And look what that GT3 with its tiny 3.6 liter 475 hp engine can accomplish! And you guys hate me for saying this.
Detroit needs to do more than this. We need proper innovation. Proper transmission, drive terrain, proper aerodynamics. Look at all wheel turning in porsche, look at the traction and gearing in NISMO. Chevy is still the same car from last time with just more and bigger components and some make up (internal improvements, pdr, etc).
Detroit needs to do more than this. We need proper innovation. Proper transmission, drive terrain, proper aerodynamics. Look at all wheel turning in porsche, look at the traction and gearing in NISMO. Chevy is still the same car from last time with just more and bigger components and some make up (internal improvements, pdr, etc).
Yep, that's exactly what Detroit needs!!! More innovation on drive "terrain"!!!
LOL 
02-08-2015, 10:12 AM
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Will this be the next round were the Nismo faces the Z06? Probably
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-hot-lap-video
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-hot-lap-video
02-08-2015, 01:09 PM
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Well this forum has been great for entertainment with the meltdown last few months, but actually just had to join reading this lol. I owned an 08' Viper and an 10' ACR. I took the ACR on plenty of trips and to road courses including driving to VIR from FL and elsewhere. If anything, it was actually a bit more comfy then the reg Viper as the suspension though firm was so well set and damped. I know a few other owners that took theirs on long trips, I'm talking across the country, not a problem. Hell didn't bother my wife in the least bit, and a woman will sure as hell let you know if something is uncomfortable .You make it seem like the ACR is un-drivable haha. I also use to own an 01' ACR long time ago, now that I'll agree was a tad over kill street or track b/c they had 1100lb springs in the rear, previous ones had a Koni setup that was softer. 01/02 was great if you drove on a perfectly smooth track, but that rear spring was way to firm for bumps etc, I ended up doing a Moton setup, others swapped out for softer springs. But regardless, ACR was just as drivable on the street as the regular Viper, just so happened to also obliterate others on track .
Looking forward to what is released for next ACR and I'll be back in the saddle, friend has a TA 2.0 deposit and may cancel. If they bring out the ACR, honestly not sure what the point on the TA 2.0 is?
.You make it seem like the ACR is un-drivable haha. I also use to own an 01' ACR long time ago, now that I'll agree was a tad over kill street or track b/c they had 1100lb springs in the rear, previous ones had a Koni setup that was softer. 01/02 was great if you drove on a perfectly smooth track, but that rear spring was way to firm for bumps etc, I ended up doing a Moton setup, others swapped out for softer springs. But regardless, ACR was just as drivable on the street as the regular Viper, just so happened to also obliterate others on track .Looking forward to what is released for next ACR and I'll be back in the saddle, friend has a TA 2.0 deposit and may cancel. If they bring out the ACR, honestly not sure what the point on the TA 2.0 is?
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02-08-2015, 06:45 PM
#391
Le Mans Master
I spent a weekend in an ACR that a friend owned and it was "IMO" a piece of wood on the street. After 700 miles I was happy to get out., Plus that drone was terrible. Nothing about it was nice other than being a beast and an awsome looking machine. Thats my opinion and we can argue till the cows come home and it wouldnt change my mind. Regardless, I still think getting the real thing is a better idea than getting a compromised street car like an ACR. Im looking forward to seeing what comes nest anyways.
02-10-2015, 09:49 PM
#392
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how is it that in 2015 RP drove a Nismo and ran a 1:19.07 and then in this comparo only manages a 1:25.70?
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html
any given Sunday that's what I always say and that's why these tests are about as accurate as 2 dollar pistol. The Stingray did a 1:24.6 which would've bested the Nismo's time on this day.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html
any given Sunday that's what I always say and that's why these tests are about as accurate as 2 dollar pistol. The Stingray did a 1:24.6 which would've bested the Nismo's time on this day.
02-10-2015, 10:39 PM
#393
Le Mans Master
I spent a weekend in an ACR that a friend owned and it was "IMO" a piece of wood on the street. After 700 miles I was happy to get out., Plus that drone was terrible. Nothing about it was nice other than being a beast and an awsome looking machine. Thats my opinion and we can argue till the cows come home and it wouldnt change my mind. Regardless, I still think getting the real thing is a better idea than getting a compromised street car like an ACR. Im looking forward to seeing what comes nest anyways.
Sure your "friend" just tossed you the keys of his 100K viper for a weekend, your post reeks of BS, please tell is a minor detail about the car you drove, that only a gen 4 viper owner would know, nothing you can google....enlighten us.
02-11-2015, 03:01 AM
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how is it that in 2015 RP drove a Nismo and ran a 1:19.07 and then in this comparo only manages a 1:25.70?
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html
any given Sunday that's what I always say and that's why these tests are about as accurate as 2 dollar pistol. The Stingray did a 1:24.6 which would've bested the Nismo's time on this day.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html
any given Sunday that's what I always say and that's why these tests are about as accurate as 2 dollar pistol. The Stingray did a 1:24.6 which would've bested the Nismo's time on this day.
dont know where to start on how wrong all that is besides kindly informing you streets of willow and willow springs are two different track configurations 2.5 miles vs 1.8
http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/page.php?id=25
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02-11-2015, 06:12 AM
#395
Safety Car
how is it that in 2015 RP drove a Nismo and ran a 1:19.07 and then in this comparo only manages a 1:25.70?
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html
any given Sunday that's what I always say and that's why these tests are about as accurate as 2 dollar pistol. The Stingray did a 1:24.6 which would've bested the Nismo's time on this day.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow...of_willow.html
any given Sunday that's what I always say and that's why these tests are about as accurate as 2 dollar pistol. The Stingray did a 1:24.6 which would've bested the Nismo's time on this day.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow_springs.html
Any given day, and any given (different) track.
02-11-2015, 12:54 PM
#396
Team Owner
nope
dont know where to start on how wrong all that is besides kindly informing you streets of willow and willow springs are two different track configurations 2.5 miles vs 1.8
http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/page.php?id=25
dont know where to start on how wrong all that is besides kindly informing you streets of willow and willow springs are two different track configurations 2.5 miles vs 1.8
http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/page.php?id=25
Because you are thinking any track with "Willow" in the name is the same track perhaps. Here is the correct record list.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow_springs.html
Any given day, and any given (different) track.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow_springs.html
Any given day, and any given (different) track.
02-11-2015, 03:03 PM
#397
Le Mans Master
02-12-2015, 02:26 AM
#398
Le Mans Master
Something seems way off for the Z06!
I thought a horsepower gauge was added to 2015 Corvettes. How about checking that?
Michael
I thought a horsepower gauge was added to 2015 Corvettes. How about checking that?
Michael
02-12-2015, 03:32 AM
#399
Race Director
I spent a weekend in an ACR that a friend owned and it was "IMO" a piece of wood on the street. After 700 miles I was happy to get out., Plus that drone was terrible. Nothing about it was nice other than being a beast and an awsome looking machine. Thats my opinion and we can argue till the cows come home and it wouldnt change my mind. Regardless, I still think getting the real thing is a better idea than getting a compromised street car like an ACR. Im looking forward to seeing what comes nest anyways.
total bullsh#&
02-12-2015, 05:52 AM
#400
Le Mans Master
I spent a weekend in an ACR that a friend owned and it was "IMO" a piece of wood on the street. After 700 miles I was happy to get out., Plus that drone was terrible. Nothing about it was nice other than being a beast and an awsome looking machine. Thats my opinion and we can argue till the cows come home and it wouldnt change my mind. Regardless, I still think getting the real thing is a better idea than getting a compromised street car like an ACR. Im looking forward to seeing what comes nest anyways.
I've been around Hi-Po machines and car guys my whole life. Guys who actually "take it to the track" and run hard. In all that time I have never read or heard anyone use the term "like a piece of wood on the street" when describing any attribute or metric of a car's performance.
PROS: Great Looks and engine sound. Torque for days
CONS: Like a piece of wood on the street
I understand that it is an attempt at some sort of witty put down but it lacks the actual wit.
Where exactly is this piece of wood supposed to shine to make this metaphor work. Is it like a 2x4 misplaced or more like a piece of driftwood on the shore? Is it a like a piece of wood stacked by the fireplace? Is it a large piece of wood or a small one etc, etc.
"Fish out of water" that is a proper example.
"handles like a brick" is another.