Other Cars Non-Corvette Content, Daily Drivers, Winter Beaters, Work Trucks, Tow Vehicles, for sale

2015 Dodge Charger: The most powerful sedan in the world.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-14-2015, 03:52 PM
  #41  
Hemi Dave
Melting Slicks
 
Hemi Dave's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2012
Location: Long Island New York
Posts: 3,421
Received 459 Likes on 212 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by blipit_
What a POS. Slow as dog crap around the track.
Originally Posted by Dave68
Yes, I have a feeling the new CTS-V will smoke it on most tracks.
Well I think it will be spending 99.9% of it's time terrorizing the streets or the drag strip......

Sorry but I think the CTS-V(a fast sedan) is going to get dragged around in those areas for 2 reasons

1) I don't think the CTSV is faster than a C7 Z06

2) The Hellcat Charger is faster than the Challenger version.

I don't really expect a rational response from you on this...but regardless the writing is on the wall.
Hemi Dave is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 04:48 PM
  #42  
rbartick
Le Mans Master
 
rbartick's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Location: Admit Nothing, Deny Everything, Make Counter Accusations.
Posts: 7,326
Received 514 Likes on 346 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
Does the Charger have all-wheel drive and a Lexus interior/ride quality/sound insulation and most importantly, reliability?

I remember "the day" very well and most drivers I saw were very young. My sister's boyfriend had one. He was 18.
Some versions of the Charger and the 300 offer AWD, obviously not the Hellcat. Their interiors are quite good. I owned an R/T Charger for 4 years and a Dodge SUV for 7. Both never required any service, YMMV.

An 18 year old driving a brand new TA back in the late 70s? That is very impressive.

This topic was not started to discuss MPG, AWD, or "Lexus like" interiors, sound insulation, and reliability. The Hellcat is a ***** to the wall car, a man's car. The car is not for everyone, some people would be more comfortable in a Hybrid Lexus SUV, a Miata, an S2000, or a Prius.

Last edited by rbartick; 01-14-2015 at 08:23 PM.
rbartick is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 06:46 PM
  #43  
URBAN LEGEND
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
URBAN LEGEND's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2008
Location: Houston
Posts: 798
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

2 camps in here: Those that know cars, and those that think they know cars (know nothing).

Some of the comments here are ludicrous. This is a family cruiser, drag strip car and roll race car straight out of the dealer.

Road course and anything else in stock form won't be its strength.
URBAN LEGEND is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 08:21 PM
  #44  
NytmereZ
Le Mans Master
 
NytmereZ's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 1999
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 5,037
Received 295 Likes on 161 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND
2 camps in here: Those that know cars, and those that think they know cars (know nothing).

Some of the comments here are ludicrous. This is a family cruiser, drag strip car and roll race car straight out of the dealer.

Road course and anything else in stock form won't be its strength.
Dave knows everything......... About nothing
NytmereZ is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 08:34 PM
  #45  
Texas_Venom
Burning Brakes
 
Texas_Venom's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2008
Location: DFW Texas
Posts: 1,171
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Well the Tesla tops out at a whopping 155mph. No not many people race from a dig... more along the lines of roll racing down the freeway. The Tesla will run around 100K where as the Charger Hellcat is $65,000. I also wont need a charging station with a Hellcat nor will I have electric bills that are through the roof. I don't understand why people have to hate on other cars. We are lucky to have so many high performance cars to choose from.

Last edited by Texas_Venom; 01-14-2015 at 08:46 PM.
Texas_Venom is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 08:43 PM
  #46  
Dave68
Race Director
 
Dave68's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 19,299
Received 78 Likes on 50 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Texas_Venom
Well the Tesla tops out at a whopping 155mph. No not many people race from a dig... more along the lines of roll racing down the freeway. The Tesla will run around 100K where as the Charger Hellcat is $65,000. I also wont need a charging station with a Hellcat nor will I have electric bills that are through the roof.
Uh, no. Both cars list at $70k. And as I mentioned, the equivalent gas mileage of the new Tesla is 85 MPG. That's at least 6.5 times more efficient than the Charger. So for about the same initial cost, you get your cake and eat it, too. It is a win-win for the Tesla and its owner for years to come.
Dave68 is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 08:44 PM
  #47  
Dave68
Race Director
 
Dave68's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 19,299
Received 78 Likes on 50 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by NytmereZ
Dave knows everything......... About nothing
And Nytmere knows nothing about everything.
Dave68 is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 08:47 PM
  #48  
Dave68
Race Director
 
Dave68's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 19,299
Received 78 Likes on 50 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Hemi Dave
Well I think it will be spending 99.9% of it's time terrorizing the streets or the drag strip......

Sorry but I think the CTS-V(a fast sedan) is going to get dragged around in those areas for 2 reasons

1) I don't think the CTSV is faster than a C7 Z06

2) The Hellcat Charger is faster than the Challenger version.

I don't really expect a rational response from you on this...but regardless the writing is on the wall.
I hope you don't think the Charger will beat the new CTS-V at, let's say, VIR, because that is not going to happen.
Dave68 is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:19 PM
  #49  
NytmereZ
Le Mans Master
 
NytmereZ's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 1999
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 5,037
Received 295 Likes on 161 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
And Nytmere knows nothing about everything.


So how about those Miata's
NytmereZ is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:24 PM
  #50  
Dave68
Race Director
 
Dave68's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 19,299
Received 78 Likes on 50 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by NytmereZ


So how about those Miata's
....especially Miatas.....
Dave68 is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:34 PM
  #51  
Denzien
6th Gear
 
Denzien's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
Uh, no. Both cars list at $70k.
Name:  drCO19r.gif
Views: 6
Size:  985.3 KB

No.

The Tesla Model S P85D - the fastest one everyone is talking about - starts at $105,670. The Charger Hellcat will MSRP at about $65k.

The Hellcat twins will beat or edge out every previous version - 3.9s P85+, 5.5s for the Model S 60...the one that starts at $71k.
Denzien is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:35 PM
  #52  
FaSSt67
Instructor
 
FaSSt67's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2007
Location: Broken Arrow OK
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
Uh, no. Both cars list at $70k. And as I mentioned, the equivalent gas mileage of the new Tesla is 85 MPG. That's at least 6.5 times more efficient than the Charger. So for about the same initial cost, you get your cake and eat it, too. It is a win-win for the Tesla and its owner for years to come.
Uh no, the Tesla model S P85D is the only one that that could hang with a hellcat and it has a base price of 105k.
FaSSt67 is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:36 PM
  #53  
FaSSt67
Instructor
 
FaSSt67's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2007
Location: Broken Arrow OK
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Denzien


No.

The Tesla Model S P85D - the fastest one everyone is talking about - starts at $105,670. The Charger Hellcat will MSRP at about $65k.

The Hellcat twins will beat or edge out every previous version - 3.9s P85+, 5.5s for the Model S 60...the one that starts at $71k.
Beat me to it. I thought Dave would know this since hes a Tesla expert..
FaSSt67 is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 09:41 PM
  #54  
Denzien
6th Gear
 
Denzien's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FaSSt67
Beat me to it. I thought Dave would know this since hes a Tesla expert..
Apparently not a numbers guy, then. Back to lurking...

Denzien is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 10:19 PM
  #55  
Dave68
Race Director
 
Dave68's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: San Diego CA
Posts: 19,299
Received 78 Likes on 50 Posts

Default

The difference is that Tesla won't tack on a $20k "dealer markup". What you see is what you get.
Dave68 is offline  
Old 01-14-2015, 10:23 PM
  #56  
Silverspeed
Team Owner
 
Silverspeed's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2007
Location: In the woods looking for my thrown putter.
Posts: 22,136
Received 23 Likes on 12 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13, '15

Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
The difference is that Tesla won't tack on a $20k "dealer markup". What you see is what you get.
Dealerships all over the country are selling Hellcats at MSRP. You would know this if you knew anything about them, but you have made it quite obvious you dont. You remind me of PeterK. Always quick to throw in some "facts" which are almost always wrong.
Silverspeed is offline  
Old 01-15-2015, 01:43 AM
  #57  
Hemi Dave
Melting Slicks
 
Hemi Dave's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2012
Location: Long Island New York
Posts: 3,421
Received 459 Likes on 212 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Dave68
I hope you don't think the Charger will beat the new CTS-V at, let's say, VIR, because that is not going to happen.
I specifically stated the streets and the drag strip...... neither of which is VIR.

When you see a Hellcat Charger on the streets and one wants to play......have the nearest road course pre programed into your GPS and ask him/her to follow you there.......

That will increase your chances of winning assuming you know how to drive

Last edited by Hemi Dave; 01-15-2015 at 01:52 AM.
Hemi Dave is offline  

Get notified of new replies

To 2015 Dodge Charger: The most powerful sedan in the world.

Old 01-15-2015, 04:12 AM
  #58  
3 Z06ZR1
Team Owner
 
3 Z06ZR1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2005
Location: salem OR
Posts: 20,936
Received 900 Likes on 742 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Hirohawa
Pretty sure the Tesla does not hit 200 MPH either
I would guess over 10 hrs to go 200 miles too!
Plus once moving not so fast!
3 Z06ZR1 is offline  
Old 01-15-2015, 11:22 AM
  #59  
PDCjonny
Burning Brakes
 
PDCjonny's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Posts: 752
Received 14 Likes on 7 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by rbartick
The Hellcat is a ***** to the wall car, a man's car.
Maybe a man could take Dave68 for a ride in one sometime. He could get a masculine perspective.
PDCjonny is offline  
Old 01-15-2015, 11:36 AM
  #60  
TurboTnZ06
Race Director
 
TurboTnZ06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2000
Location: City of Turbo Buicks in Corvette County FL
Posts: 14,470
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Appears that the Teslow p85d only runs a 11.8 1/4 mile? That is barely fast enough to beat a stock 2001 C5 z06 on drag tires. I'd get a Hellokitty car, it'd be fun to drive. But would go on a diet as soon as I got it home. Can the Teslow drive 100 miles to a track, make drag runs all day, and then drive home without charging? And then maybe roll race a bike on the highway on the way home? Even better, I drove my 80's V6 Buick 800 miles each way on day 1 and 5, then for 3 days in between, ran mid tens racing. Electric performance isn't ready for primetime yet.
TurboTnZ06 is offline  


Quick Reply: 2015 Dodge Charger: The most powerful sedan in the world.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:27 PM.