Cayman S 6 speed. Personal Review vrs.07 Z
07-30-2014, 01:46 PM
#21
Burning Brakes
08-01-2014, 07:48 PM
#22
Race Director
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
08-01-2014, 11:38 PM
#23
Team Owner
I've owned 8 Mazdas and not one gave me the problems that coworkers' Porsches gave them during the same time/mileage span. The longest I've owned any was 17 years (MX6 GT Turbo). At 25 years old, it's multiple gasket leak repair cost didn't justify keeping it any longer, but overall, was a very reliable car, indeed.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
Setting aside the fact that the Cayman will still drive better than a modified Miata (with its warranty out the window), there is a spectacular difference in beauty and quality between the two. You can't compare the visceral experience of walking up to a beautiful sports car, dropping into perfect leather seats, firing up a sweet sounding flat six... to driving a hopped up Miata.
Get real Dave. You are stretching really far to sell your Porsche hate on this one.
08-02-2014, 03:17 AM
#24
Get Some!
I've owned 8 Mazdas and not one gave me the problems that coworkers' Porsches gave them during the same time/mileage span. The longest I've owned any was 17 years (MX6 GT Turbo). At 25 years old, it's multiple gasket leak repair cost didn't justify keeping it any longer, but overall, was a very reliable car, indeed.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
08-02-2014, 03:33 AM
#25
Get Some!
Dave has a bizarre hatred of Porsche. Complete bug up his *** about the brand.
Setting aside the fact that the Cayman will still drive better than a modified Miata (with its warranty out the window), there is a spectacular difference in beauty and quality between the two. You can't compare the visceral experience of walking up to a beautiful sports car, dropping into perfect leather seats, firing up a sweet sounding flat six... to driving a hopped up Miata.
Get real Dave. You are stretching really far to sell your Porsche hate on this one.
Setting aside the fact that the Cayman will still drive better than a modified Miata (with its warranty out the window), there is a spectacular difference in beauty and quality between the two. You can't compare the visceral experience of walking up to a beautiful sports car, dropping into perfect leather seats, firing up a sweet sounding flat six... to driving a hopped up Miata.
Get real Dave. You are stretching really far to sell your Porsche hate on this one.
08-02-2014, 12:17 PM
#26
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
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08-02-2014, 12:32 PM
#27
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Japanese Quility?????
I've owned 8 Mazdas and not one gave me the problems that coworkers' Porsches gave them during the same time/mileage span. The longest I've owned any was 17 years (MX6 GT Turbo). At 25 years old, it's multiple gasket leak repair cost didn't justify keeping it any longer, but overall, was a very reliable car, indeed.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
sound like "Tin cans" when you close their doors. The Asians already have gotten enough of my money and time (work related). German engineering IMO is at the pinnacle of the automotive industry with American car makers beginning to "bit at their heels.
08-02-2014, 09:44 PM
#28
Race Director
Hah, 150K is all you got? We've got a combined total of 400,000 miles on our vehicles with no to few issues. Of course, none is German. Our families have been punished enough by German cars over the years to have taught us a bittersweet lesson: Performance doesn't necessarily make up for frequent trips to the repair shop.
And no, this isn't a Porsche forum. "Other Cars" means just that - anyone can comment, not just current Porsche owners.
And no, this isn't a Porsche forum. "Other Cars" means just that - anyone can comment, not just current Porsche owners.
08-02-2014, 11:14 PM
#29
Team Owner
Hah, 150K is all you got? We've got a combined total of 400,000 miles on our vehicles with no to few issues. Of course, none is German. Our families have been punished enough by German cars over the years to have taught us a bittersweet lesson: Performance doesn't necessarily make up for frequent trips to the repair shop.
And no, this isn't a Porsche forum. "Other Cars" means just that - anyone can comment, not just current Porsche owners.
And no, this isn't a Porsche forum. "Other Cars" means just that - anyone can comment, not just current Porsche owners.
08-03-2014, 04:42 AM
#30
I've owned 8 Mazdas and not one gave me the problems that coworkers' Porsches gave them during the same time/mileage span. The longest I've owned any was 17 years (MX6 GT Turbo). At 25 years old, it's multiple gasket leak repair cost didn't justify keeping it any longer, but overall, was a very reliable car, indeed.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
Take whatJD Powers publishes with a grain of salt. Check any Consumer Reports annual auto issue. The MX5, in particular is one of the most reliable vehicles on the road and maintenance costs are miniscule. (a real rarity for a sportscar) The only data for the Boxster is for the 07 and 08 models. Not enough subscribers have purchased new 09-13 models to compile significant reliability scores. Of course, our Lexus has been our most reliable vehicle (after 9 years), but at almost twice the cost of our 2014 Mazda 3, it should be stellar in that regard.
Hopefully, the Boxster/Cayman twins prove to be reliable. But knowing the Japanese obsession with quality, it will be tough for any German manufacturer to match Japanese vehicle reliability, dollar for dollar and year after year.
Miata's without LSx's suck.
08-03-2014, 11:20 PM
#32
Race Director
In fact, in 2009, English automotive critic Jeremy Clarkson wrote:
The fact is that if you want a sports car, the MX-5 is perfect. Nothing on the road will give you better value. Nothing will give you so much fun. The only reason I’m giving it five stars is because I can’t give it fourteen.
08-06-2014, 08:09 AM
#33
If: 1) my ***** suddenly found themselves in a pair of vice grips, 2) I started developing a fetish of wearing women's clothing and makeup; and 3) watching "The View" suddenly became appealing, I'd love to drive a Miata.
Until then, no thanks.
Until then, no thanks.
08-06-2014, 06:50 PM
#34
Race Director
Ignorant post, the haters always say that.
08-06-2014, 08:56 PM
#36
I'm not a hater. I'm just a not-liker. 
I'm sure a Miata is a hoot to drive, but I wouldn't be caught in one unless it was a friend or relative driving THEIR miata.
That Dave68 continually talks about mazads this and mazdas that around here, as if a miata is a valid comparison to a vette for a sports car. A miata is a valid comparison to whatever car is in its category, no? Somehow i don't think a vette is in that category.
Would you be caught in a minivan as a young single guy? What's that, no? Are you a Sienna or Town & Country hater?
I'm sure a Miata is a hoot to drive, but I wouldn't be caught in one unless it was a friend or relative driving THEIR miata.
That Dave68 continually talks about mazads this and mazdas that around here, as if a miata is a valid comparison to a vette for a sports car. A miata is a valid comparison to whatever car is in its category, no? Somehow i don't think a vette is in that category.
Would you be caught in a minivan as a young single guy? What's that, no? Are you a Sienna or Town & Country hater?
08-07-2014, 02:29 AM
#37
08-07-2014, 07:24 AM
#38
Before buying my C5, I had a 1996 first gen Miata. Although it was fun and handled like it was on-rails, I looked ridiculous in it! I sort of looked like a circus bear in a toy car. I sold it after a couple of years of driving it incognito because I never felt comfortable. That is the problem with the Miata. It is a great car, but damn!........can't they at least make it look a little more muscular and less like it belongs in a "Cars" movie? If Mazda could do that, it would be fantastic. A performance car needs to look good and make the person driving it look good.
The Porsche Cayman has the great looks and the performance. The whole package is there. However for me, there is one aspect of the Boxster/ Cayman which was a deal breaker when I was shopping for a sportscar. I do all of my own maintenance and what is important to me is easy access to the engine bay and a great looking engine. Porsche always have this tendency to hide their engines as if they were not meant to be seen or touched. I love opening my hood and working on or showing off a great looking engine and engine bay. If I can't do that "easily", the deal is off no matter how good the car is. Ferrari for example, put their engine on display under a plexiglass cover for everyone to see and admire. So does Lamborghini, and Audi with the R8's and most other mid-engine sports car manufacturers. Why does Porsche not consider this important or necessary with their sports cars? Obviously, the cars are not meant for people who consider engines a work of art or a thing of beauty.
But, congrats on your purchase. As I said, it is a great car! Enjoy!
The Porsche Cayman has the great looks and the performance. The whole package is there. However for me, there is one aspect of the Boxster/ Cayman which was a deal breaker when I was shopping for a sportscar. I do all of my own maintenance and what is important to me is easy access to the engine bay and a great looking engine. Porsche always have this tendency to hide their engines as if they were not meant to be seen or touched. I love opening my hood and working on or showing off a great looking engine and engine bay. If I can't do that "easily", the deal is off no matter how good the car is. Ferrari for example, put their engine on display under a plexiglass cover for everyone to see and admire. So does Lamborghini, and Audi with the R8's and most other mid-engine sports car manufacturers. Why does Porsche not consider this important or necessary with their sports cars? Obviously, the cars are not meant for people who consider engines a work of art or a thing of beauty.
But, congrats on your purchase. As I said, it is a great car! Enjoy!
