NemesisC5

I know this is not a C7 thread, I'm merely posting for the enjoyment of viewing this amazing car. Listening to the interview you can tell this car was a result of a "think tank of top engineers / drivers" applying leading edge technology to make the P1 the worlds best all around high performance production car. I love the fact that no compromises to drivability are made when the end result is considered.

With that said I will post that I am truly impressed with the C7 Corvette and Very Impressed with what the C7Z is looking like in pictures and on paper. I'm sure the numbers once tracked will impress the world with what can be done with a car that costs about $100k.

jazvet

My buddy just went to England to order one 1.3 mill.

ATC399

What you have to be in country to order?

skank

I've seen the car in person. It was at the Concour D'Elegance last year at Pebble Beach. While the car isn't particularly good looking it's performance is great. It will be interesting when the ZO6/ZO7 or the new Viper ACR shows up at Nurburgring and times that they will produce. There's already chatter about this on Bridge to Gantry web site. And what happens if Corvette actually does build the new ZR1. I've seen all three hyper cars at Pebble last year and the La Ferrari is by far the best. The Porsche 918 was the least desirable. If either Vette or Viper get reasonably close in times to these three it will show them to be a farce.

punky

Pretty ricer video with all the drifting, not at all a fan of that stuff. I am sure that car is just crazy fast. Personally I'd really rather have the C7 Z06 when it becomes available. 900 HP sounds like overkill to me. No doubt they will have takers for this offering.

Daekwan06

I should be able to better appreciate the P1, and I can to a certain point. But it still isnt that impressive when you look at the all the numbers. Why? Because after spending $1.5 million dollars this is the type of performance you should be receiving. There's really nothing amazing about that. And while Im sure the P1 will go on break every production street car record known to man.. just like the $2 million dollar Veyron did before it.. its still a matter of basically getting what you pay for.

I think the C7's performance at $50k and the C7Z's performance at $80k is tons more impressive. Its simply much harder to achieve that kinda performance under $100k.. than it is to achieve P1 performance at $1,500,000.

skank

In the video, Harris brags of the P1 0-300km/hr time of 16.5 seconds and Porsche 918 has done a 19.9 second 0-300. The Venom GT did a 13.63 !! The Bugatti Veyron has done a 14.6 according to Fastestlaps.com. Ferrari reports 15 seconds 0-300 on their La Ferrari info.

BMadden

Clarkson tested the P1 on Top Gear and watching that thing on the track was truly amazing.

NemesisC5

900 HP overkill? Many forced induction Corvettes ranging from C5-C7 making 900 BHP, just look in the forced induction sections, ZR1 section and C7z section once the car is for sale. We all have our opinions on any car but I've never seen a car that has leveraged that much high end technology and design focus to be ultra fast on track and easy to drive in town. Every curve and line on the P1 is there for a purpose with carbon fiber used everywhere it can be as long as it meets design criteria.

NemesisC5

Hennessey made the Venom GT fast in a straight line, that's all. It may be fast as a rocket in a straight line but a Lotus with a forced induction LS7 isn't exactly rocket science. I'd bet the Hennessey Venom could not come within 20 seconds of ZR1 time on "the ring".

Dave68

I'm not sure those flashing orange tail lights would be legal, here in the US.

In any case, I'm sure the Porsche fan boys and engineers are NOT happy at this time.

Mr turbo rotary

The flashing lights are an optical illusion I believe from the camera. There was a C7 doing the same thing a while back.

punky

Oh MY! Didn't want to offend any of the pros here. I'm sure there are guys on this board who are competent to pilot a 900HP vehicle. I am not one of them and can guarantee you that there are many who think they are OK with that kind of power and are only fooling themselves.

Maybe some day you could show me just how you actually use 900 HP on the street. LOL!

adamgl

I don't know about that. Lotus's are known for good handling more than anything. And crazy power in the straights.

Guibo

It's not just performance you're getting for the price. A huge part of the P1's price is the fact that they're only building 375 of them. If the C7 sells in volumes of ~200k like the C6 before it, we're looking at revenues of around $10B, compared to about $560M for the P1.
If you factor in the point that GM has been continuously developing (and investing in) the Corvette since the 50's, then the price argument of the P1 (dependent on startup of the MP4 only 3 years ago and not benefiting from GM levels of amortization) is less impressive. GM has at its vast disposal considerably more personnel (48k people working in Powertrain alone, whereas the entire McLaren operations including the F1 group has only 5k people) and more R&D facilities throughout the world.

Why would it show them to be a farce? These cars are about more than just performance numbers.

Except Lotuses were never designed to handle that kind of power.

Guibo

From McLaren's website:
"Despite its exceptional performance, the McLaren P1™ returns an impressive 34.0mpg (8.3l/100km) on the EU combined cycle, while producing CO2 emissions of 194g/km. Of course, the McLaren P1™ can also be driven solely in electric mode, during which it delivers a range of 11km (6.8 miles) on the NEDC cycle and emissions are reduced to zero.
‘It’s pretty cool to turn up, silently, in a million-dollar McLaren.’"

Just for reference, here are figures (uk imperial) for other cars
997S w/PDK: 32.5 mpg (8.7 l/100km), 205 g/km
C7: 27.6 mpg (12.2 l/100m), 290 g/km
Viper: (17.0 l/100km), 400 g/km
918: (3.1 l/100m), 72 g/km

Nobody buys these cars for efficiency alone, but the point is that the P1/918 have been engineered to be that fast and that efficient.

NemesisC5

If you can't figure out why McLaren built the P1 maybe sports cars are just not you. Why did Bugatti build the Veyron? Why do enthusiasts participate in standing mile top speed events? Because "More Is Never Enough" and no matter how much power a car can make or how fast it can lap a track somebody will always want to top it. Every Sunday they televise events with cars called races and there will be a winner who along with his team is very pleased they bested the competition.

My car only has 800 HP but I'll be happy to give you driving lessons.

NemesisC5

Lotus's are engineered from the factory with a balance of power and handling but when you stuff an LS7 along with twin turbos and associated systems it completely throws the balance of the car off. Not to mention the fierce power delivery would make this car more than a handful to pro drivers to drive around the Nurburgring Nordscleife.

NemesisC5

Guibo

"fitted as standard with an onboard petrol-powered generator..."