skank

While I was at Laguna Seca last month watching the C7 vs 911 Carrera S test I mentioned a certain 730hp Italian beauty that was being driven at the same time. I also mentioned how the C7 dominated the 911 and also matched this very expensive red stallion. This thread would normally be entered in Other Cars, but this test is relevant here since I saw how the C7 did against this red head.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ve_first_test/

BlueOx

Not really.

musclecar6

Granted it won't have a dual clutch, but just wait till LPE,Callaway, or other well regarded forum tuner turns out their maggie heartbeat or edlebrock C7 supercharger package and one can get comparable performance at a fraction of the absurd 434,000 price for the Ferrari F-12. Idiotic waste of money.

VIN666

So where's the test we do care about - aka Porschah vs C7?

michaelinmech

How is a $430,000 Ferrari a 'relative competitor' to the C7?

Who is cross shopping one against the other, which would be the basis of a 'relative competitor'?

427Z0SX

I'd never buy it, even if I had the $. But, it's not a waste if the owner can easily afford it. To the super rich, it's only money, no big deal.

tuxnharley

The article seems to criticize the F12 for not living up to its "potential" as a 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile car relative to Corvettes and Mustangs. Uh, well, excuse me for the heresy, but maybe that wasn't the primary target Ferrari was looking for?

rcallen484

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the folks at Ferrari are not concerned about, " SATURDAAAAAAY NIGHT...... AT BEELINE DRAGWAY..... UNDER THE LIGHTS..... FIREBELCHING, FUEL BURNING, TIRE SCORCHING ACTION....ETC."

michaelinmech

^ Clearly 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile time is not the primary target Ferrari is looking for with F12 . . . . . Loads of disposable income is the primary target

shadeshift

Looks like it's wearing thong underwear.

onspeed

By that logic, you can buy a C5 plus a supercharger and do circles around a C7, so that's also an idiotic waste of money? Or buy a civic and throw some boost at it.

Your argument that you can buy a cheaper car and throw mods on it to make the performance comparable = idiotic waste of money, is just ridiculous IMO.

Stingray23

He said that the C7 matched the time of the Ferrari. The F12 ran a 1:38 at LS

avalonandl

You can only drive one car at a time. So if you have $ to spend why not spend it on a v12 with a redline of 9,000 rpm. People with high net worth do not necesarily want to have 2 red sports cars, they want one. So they will buy the Ferrari F12. We will not see many of the F12 in Detroit area. There will be a few in Naples, Fl and Palm Beach. Probably a few in LA, Houston, and Atlanta.

What amazes me is how the C7 and F12 look so similar in overall shape and especially in the headlight design.

What i am impressed with is we can buy an American built coupe with 95 % of the performance for around 62k (Z-51 package, mag ride package is needed). So I do not have to be a multi millionare to drive a high performance red sports car. Isn't America GREAT<

punky

Hows come we never compare a $60,000 C7 with a $60,000 Porsche?

onspeed

Well the Porsche market strategy is different from GMs. They need much higher profit margins per car to stay afloat than GM. I wouldn't say it's "not fair" to compare a C7 to a Cayman S, but the performance of the 911 is much closer to the C7 than the Cayman, since Porsche is stubborn on keeping their backwards design.

Notch

You think the Ferrari F12 is a C7 competitor?? You can't possibly be serious.

Sin City

The F12 has an MSRP of $315K and for Ferrari's, has a lot of standard equipment. You could get out for $330 pretty easily.

Is it worth it? No, it's worth MORE.


But the F12 and the C7 are apples and oranges. The F12 competes with the Aventador. The C7 competes with the 911.

Both are cheaper than their competitors and IMO, both are better than their competitors.

McGirk94LT1

Then what's the point? You can't sell a Ferrari with the performance of a Camry. That's not very Ferrari like is it? A Ferrari MUST perform, or else what's the point?

Because that wouldn't be "fair."

Geez somebody get this guy the "Corvette V " handbook...

C7pimp

+1


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LouieM

Wow, a two-ton Ferrari with inferior braking and squirreley handling compared to a C7 or even a C6 ZR1, for $430K. They should consider going to pushrods to reduce the flab. The F-car and C-car don't compete in the marketplace for sociodemographic reasons. However, it will be fun to watch the upcoming Z06/Z07 waste the porky Italiano in every category. How does one even get a car that size to weight over two tons? By not attending to engineering basics, but keeping a firm eye on marketing factors. Chevy has upped their game and Ferrari has lowered theirs.