Boss 302 or C6
#141
Drifting
I keep saying the same thing - I don't know what the hell they were thinking. I think it's mainly the Laguna Seca model that looks so bad.
It's a shame they did that to the Boss - the car is the purest muscle car that truly speaks for itself. I would not blame anyone for wanting the car - it looks to be a damn fine car. But I will say that if you have to pay $50,000 for it, I think a Corvette is a better choice. But damn, I'd sure like to drive one. Great car and we should all be glad that Ford is building these sort of cars. I hear that GM plans to respond with a similar Camaro.
It's a shame they did that to the Boss - the car is the purest muscle car that truly speaks for itself. I would not blame anyone for wanting the car - it looks to be a damn fine car. But I will say that if you have to pay $50,000 for it, I think a Corvette is a better choice. But damn, I'd sure like to drive one. Great car and we should all be glad that Ford is building these sort of cars. I hear that GM plans to respond with a similar Camaro.
Loves the car.
He's driven my 400rwhp LS3 and said my car is faster in a straight line.
He had a GT500 previously but Boss is lighter, faster and handles like it's on rails. He said the exhaust sound is amazing.
Only bad thing is that I won't be up in Canada until Xmas and I doubt if we will be able to do a test drive in 20 below zero.
#142
Le Mans Master
I never said the Boss was a Z killer. However, when compared to the 2006-2010 models (95% of the Z's on the road) it has faster lap times at LS. To me, that is very impressive for a car that cost almost HALF as much and performs at the same level.....and that's without the TracKey (being released this week). The 3 Z06's that you mentioned all had the Z07 package, which have many of the ZR1 parts as well as a 100k+ price tag, they should outperform everything on the road.
I absolutely love the Z, as well as the Boss, just want to make sure there are no misconceptions about what the Boss is capable of
I absolutely love the Z, as well as the Boss, just want to make sure there are no misconceptions about what the Boss is capable of
As capable as the Boss LS is, put R compounds on the Z06 and it's no contest.
On a short track like that, I doubt the Z06 carbon brakes alone will make that much of a difference over the steel brakes of the regular Z06. It's mostly about tires, and the old F1's were garbage.
That being said, if I was going to get a mustang, the Boss would be choice #1 (but immediately taken to a paint shop then custom wheels).
Last edited by AirBusPilot; 10-25-2011 at 03:21 PM.
#143
Melting Slicks
Not to flame you but you must not be a TRUE CORVETTE guy or you would not ever think of going from a corvette to a mustang unless it was for a financial reason. As long as I can afford a CORVETTE that wil be my only SECOND car in the family I will ever own! CORVETTE #1.
Just because you own something does not automatically make it #1 ( and no, your chosen sports team isnt #1 just because you say so either ).
I love my Corvette and think its one of the best bang for the buck sports cars. But its ridiculous to bicker and insult people because they choose to like a different car.
#144
Melting Slicks
Your car is faster on the track also. I know the Boss can pull 1G on the skidpad, but after 7 laps on the track its narrower tires are going to be melting and its smaller brakes are going to be smoking and fading while your car is going to feel just like it left the pits.
#145
Le Mans Master
I keep saying the same thing - I don't know what the hell they were thinking. I think it's mainly the Laguna Seca model that looks so bad.
It's a shame they did that to the Boss - the car is the purest muscle car that truly speaks for itself. I would not blame anyone for wanting the car - it looks to be a damn fine car. But I will say that if you have to pay $50,000 for it, I think a Corvette is a better choice. But damn, I'd sure like to drive one. Great car and we should all be glad that Ford is building these sort of cars. I hear that GM plans to respond with a similar Camaro.
It's a shame they did that to the Boss - the car is the purest muscle car that truly speaks for itself. I would not blame anyone for wanting the car - it looks to be a damn fine car. But I will say that if you have to pay $50,000 for it, I think a Corvette is a better choice. But damn, I'd sure like to drive one. Great car and we should all be glad that Ford is building these sort of cars. I hear that GM plans to respond with a similar Camaro.
He painted his rear differential red. Why? I don't know, maybe he had a couple of rattle cans of red paint laying around. I'm equally confused with the bizarre color scheme they have on this LS.
I'm thinking maybe the same guy in high school now works for Ford in their paint department.
#146
Team Owner
I remember in high school a guy had an early 70's camaro, jacked up to the sky with L60's on the back.
He painted his rear differential red. Why? I don't know, maybe he had a couple of rattle cans of red paint laying around. I'm equally confused with the bizarre color scheme they have on this LS.
I'm thinking maybe the same guy in high school now works for Ford in their paint department.
He painted his rear differential red. Why? I don't know, maybe he had a couple of rattle cans of red paint laying around. I'm equally confused with the bizarre color scheme they have on this LS.
I'm thinking maybe the same guy in high school now works for Ford in their paint department.
#147
Team Owner
#148
Well, I just wanted to set the record straight about who really had the "R compound" tires. That alone accounts for a HUGE difference. Run a 12' Z07 with the cup tires and I bet it'll be right there on top of the ACR, if not quicker.
As capable as the Boss LS is, put R compounds on the Z06 and it's no contest.
On a short track like that, I doubt the Z06 carbon brakes alone will make that much of a difference over the steel brakes of the regular Z06. It's mostly about tires, and the old F1's were garbage.
That being said, if I was going to get a mustang, the Boss would be choice #1 (but immediately taken to a paint shop then custom wheels).
As capable as the Boss LS is, put R compounds on the Z06 and it's no contest.
On a short track like that, I doubt the Z06 carbon brakes alone will make that much of a difference over the steel brakes of the regular Z06. It's mostly about tires, and the old F1's were garbage.
That being said, if I was going to get a mustang, the Boss would be choice #1 (but immediately taken to a paint shop then custom wheels).
Boss (non-LS) 1:40.21
09 GTR 1:40.45
C6Z with F1's !:40.90
^based on Motor Trends results
One MAJOR factor that we havent included is the TracKey, which is being released this week. The TracKey alter's over 600 parameters of the Boss, tailoring it for pure racing. I'd really like to see the difference in lap times/performance #'s once the TracKey comes into play, I'm guessing it will be significant.
#149
Drifting
^says the guy who has a picture of a Buick in his avatar
Almost all of those problems that you listed above are almost non existent. I spend just as much time on the Mustang forums as I do on the corvette forums, and I guarantee you that Corvette's have just as many problems as Mustangs. Wanna know how I know this???
Here are 7 threads that you created about problems with your amazing corvette....
1. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...arming-up.html
2. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-detected.html
3. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...axle-nuts.html (TSB's anyone? )
4. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ck-rattle.html
5. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ont-crank.html
6. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...tch-fluid.html
7. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...sometimes.html
My Boss has yet to see the dealer for any problems
Almost all of those problems that you listed above are almost non existent. I spend just as much time on the Mustang forums as I do on the corvette forums, and I guarantee you that Corvette's have just as many problems as Mustangs. Wanna know how I know this???
Here are 7 threads that you created about problems with your amazing corvette....
1. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...arming-up.html
2. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-detected.html
3. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...axle-nuts.html (TSB's anyone? )
4. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ck-rattle.html
5. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ont-crank.html
6. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...tch-fluid.html
7. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...sometimes.html
My Boss has yet to see the dealer for any problems
The guy displays a Buick on his avatar and apparently his Corvette is nothing but problems.
That must be why he would not take a mustang if someone gave it to him.
Everyone would rather have an old 6 cyl Buick than a new Boss302.
#150
Team Owner
Not me, I would take that Mustang in a second..
..and just as quick, it would have a big for sale sign on it, and I would sit back and let those women fight over it... $$$$
Women love those Mustangs!!
..and just as quick, it would have a big for sale sign on it, and I would sit back and let those women fight over it... $$$$
Women love those Mustangs!!
#151
Drifting
I hear what you are saying, and it's a valid point. Trust me, I know how fast these Z's can be, I'm still #5 on the Fast List (Internal mods + bolt-ons). What's impressive to me, is when you compare the first 4-5 years of C6Z's (95% of the Z's on the road) that came with F1's vs the NON LS Boss that comes with equally as crappy tires (non R compound), the Boss still posted faster lap times at Laguna Seca.
Boss (non-LS) 1:40.21
09 GTR 1:40.45
C6Z with F1's !:40.90
^based on Motor Trends results
One MAJOR factor that we havent included is the TracKey, which is being released this week. The TracKey alter's over 600 parameters of the Boss, tailoring it for pure racing. I'd really like to see the difference in lap times/performance #'s once the TracKey comes into play, I'm guessing it will be significant.
Boss (non-LS) 1:40.21
09 GTR 1:40.45
C6Z with F1's !:40.90
^based on Motor Trends results
One MAJOR factor that we havent included is the TracKey, which is being released this week. The TracKey alter's over 600 parameters of the Boss, tailoring it for pure racing. I'd really like to see the difference in lap times/performance #'s once the TracKey comes into play, I'm guessing it will be significant.
Word has it that the Ford TracKey feature available on the Mustang Boss 302 will come with some interesting fine print. According to Mustangs Daily, owners who opt to have TracKey installed at their local Ford dealer will have to endure a three-year, 36,000-mile powertrain warranty. That's noticeably shorter than the five-year, 60,000-mile warranty that comes standard on the Mustang Boss 302. In addition, owners who decide to bolt on any extra performance modifications in conjunction with TracKey will see their warranty completely voided. Ford says that aftermarket modifications could cause severe engine damage.
Despite the shortened warranty, Mustangs Daily reports that Ford doesn't expect any reliability issues with TracKey. The company says that its engineers have done all of the necessary homework on the system.
From the sound of things, Ford is simply protecting itself from abusive owners who may seek to take advantage of a race car with a warranty. We'll learn more once Ford officially debuts TracKey at SEMA in Las Vegas in a few weeks.
#152
Drifting
^says the guy who has a picture of a Buick in his avatar
Almost all of those problems that you listed above are almost non existent. I spend just as much time on the Mustang forums as I do on the corvette forums, and I guarantee you that Corvette's have just as many problems as Mustangs. Wanna know how I know this???
Here are 7 threads that you created about problems with your amazing corvette....
1. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...arming-up.html
2. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-detected.html
3. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...axle-nuts.html (TSB's anyone? )
4. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ck-rattle.html
5. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ont-crank.html
6. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...tch-fluid.html
7. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...sometimes.html
My Boss has yet to see the dealer for any problems
Almost all of those problems that you listed above are almost non existent. I spend just as much time on the Mustang forums as I do on the corvette forums, and I guarantee you that Corvette's have just as many problems as Mustangs. Wanna know how I know this???
Here are 7 threads that you created about problems with your amazing corvette....
1. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...arming-up.html
2. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-detected.html
3. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...axle-nuts.html (TSB's anyone? )
4. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ck-rattle.html
5. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...ont-crank.html
6. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...tch-fluid.html
7. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...sometimes.html
My Boss has yet to see the dealer for any problems
If you had put as much effort into checking my info as you did some of my old posts, you would have seen my 2 Vettes with photos.
ALL of the problems with your "beloved mustangs" Are Existent. Perhaps if you had "spent enough time" before hand finding out the facts you wouldn't sound like a fool now trying to deny them.
Trying to compare some threads i posted of MINOR issues with MAJOR problems i posted with mustangs is trying to compare apples to hand grenades.
ALL threads of mine you posted are either normal or very minor issues. This is how i know.
1) normal for a C5. I missed it in the owners manual.
2) fob needed a battery.
3) axle nuts replaced under warranty. Common, doesn't affect anything.
4) driveline rattle is normal for a man.6 speed car. Trans. is in the back.
5) see #2
6) many hydraulic clutches get dark fluid after a while. Change it for $2.00. Ranger method.
7) C5 minor issue. $9.00 flasher fixes this.
All i can say is good luck on your Ford, you're gonna need it.
2011 Mustangs now have 69 TSB's from Ford. Try checking the LINK.
#153
Drifting
Didn't say i wouldn't take the stang, i said i would SELL IT AND BUY ANOTHER VETTE.
Smarta**? Not any 6 cyl. Buick jack, Turbo car. Eats stangs for Breakfast
Mustangs are Still fords What do YOU drive? a '79 pinto?
Last edited by Rebel 1; 10-26-2011 at 01:49 AM. Reason: what car?
#154
Check this out.
Word has it that the Ford TracKey feature available on the Mustang Boss 302 will come with some interesting fine print. According to Mustangs Daily, owners who opt to have TracKey installed at their local Ford dealer will have to endure a three-year, 36,000-mile powertrain warranty. That's noticeably shorter than the five-year, 60,000-mile warranty that comes standard on the Mustang Boss 302. In addition, owners who decide to bolt on any extra performance modifications in conjunction with TracKey will see their warranty completely voided. Ford says that aftermarket modifications could cause severe engine damage.
Despite the shortened warranty, Mustangs Daily reports that Ford doesn't expect any reliability issues with TracKey. The company says that its engineers have done all of the necessary homework on the system.
From the sound of things, Ford is simply protecting itself from abusive owners who may seek to take advantage of a race car with a warranty. We'll learn more once Ford officially debuts TracKey at SEMA in Las Vegas in a few weeks.
Word has it that the Ford TracKey feature available on the Mustang Boss 302 will come with some interesting fine print. According to Mustangs Daily, owners who opt to have TracKey installed at their local Ford dealer will have to endure a three-year, 36,000-mile powertrain warranty. That's noticeably shorter than the five-year, 60,000-mile warranty that comes standard on the Mustang Boss 302. In addition, owners who decide to bolt on any extra performance modifications in conjunction with TracKey will see their warranty completely voided. Ford says that aftermarket modifications could cause severe engine damage.
Despite the shortened warranty, Mustangs Daily reports that Ford doesn't expect any reliability issues with TracKey. The company says that its engineers have done all of the necessary homework on the system.
From the sound of things, Ford is simply protecting itself from abusive owners who may seek to take advantage of a race car with a warranty. We'll learn more once Ford officially debuts TracKey at SEMA in Las Vegas in a few weeks.
I plan to immediately modify my Boss (Headers/cold air intake + custom dyno tune) within a few days of installing the TracKey (next Tuesday).
#155
Le Mans Master
Click on the link, it might stop you from making a bigger *** out of yourself.
#156
My Buick has blown the doors off over 30 mustangs at Bristol street fights and i loved every second of it
If you had put as much effort into checking my info as you did some of my old posts, you would have seen my 2 Vettes with photos.
ALL of the problems with your "beloved mustangs" Are Existent. Perhaps if you had "spent enough time" before hand finding out the facts you wouldn't sound like a fool now trying to deny them.
Trying to compare some threads i posted of MINOR issues with MAJOR problems i posted with mustangs is trying to compare apples to hand grenades.
ALL threads of mine you posted are either normal or very minor issues. This is how i know.
1) normal for a C5. I missed it in the owners manual.
2) fob needed a battery.
3) axle nuts replaced under warranty. Common, doesn't affect anything.
4) driveline rattle is normal for a man.6 speed car. Trans. is in the back.
5) see #2
6) many hydraulic clutches get dark fluid after a while. Change it for $2.00. Ranger method.
7) C5 minor issue. $9.00 flasher fixes this.
All i can say is good luck on your Ford, you're gonna need it.
2011 Mustangs now have 69 TSB's from Ford. Try checking the LINK.
If you had put as much effort into checking my info as you did some of my old posts, you would have seen my 2 Vettes with photos.
ALL of the problems with your "beloved mustangs" Are Existent. Perhaps if you had "spent enough time" before hand finding out the facts you wouldn't sound like a fool now trying to deny them.
Trying to compare some threads i posted of MINOR issues with MAJOR problems i posted with mustangs is trying to compare apples to hand grenades.
ALL threads of mine you posted are either normal or very minor issues. This is how i know.
1) normal for a C5. I missed it in the owners manual.
2) fob needed a battery.
3) axle nuts replaced under warranty. Common, doesn't affect anything.
4) driveline rattle is normal for a man.6 speed car. Trans. is in the back.
5) see #2
6) many hydraulic clutches get dark fluid after a while. Change it for $2.00. Ranger method.
7) C5 minor issue. $9.00 flasher fixes this.
All i can say is good luck on your Ford, you're gonna need it.
2011 Mustangs now have 69 TSB's from Ford. Try checking the LINK.
I was simply pointing out the many relative problems you've had with YOUR corvette, versus the ZERO problems I've had with my Boss. I'm just sayin
I'm not a fanboy for the Boss, I've owned 2 C6Z's, love both cars, but dont be fooled into thinking that the Boss has more problems than a corvette. My brand new 08Z had a 1-2 transmission grind/tr6060 that GM refused to warranty, even when the car was brand new with less than 1000 miles on it, no mods. Also, GM refuses to warranty a HUGE paint/body chunk/chip that was under the rear hatch (inside of car) when it was brand new.
^First hand account of getting screwed by GM directly after purchasing a new Z.
You just cant play that hand "Ford is crap, Chevy rules," because neither manufacturer is perfect.
#157
Team Owner
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-z...fast-list.html
Click on the link, it might stop you from making a bigger *** out of yourself.
Click on the link, it might stop you from making a bigger *** out of yourself.
#159
Team Owner
#160
Drifting
I still think it's great that Ford is going out of their way to create an aftermarket race tune for the Boss and still offer the 3yr/36k warranty. I dont buy a car for a warranty anyway, I thoroughly enjoy modifying my rides and pushing them to their limits, even if I have to sacrifice a warranty.
I plan to immediately modify my Boss (Headers/cold air intake + custom dyno tune) within a few days of installing the TracKey (next Tuesday).
I plan to immediately modify my Boss (Headers/cold air intake + custom dyno tune) within a few days of installing the TracKey (next Tuesday).
There's been alot of hype about this, would like to see the results.