Originally Posted by Onerareviper

Was it brand new? No miles? If so, you scored a great deal. At least according to all the 20-30K markup threads.

Originally Posted by kageryu311

You can buy a Cobb AP for the GT-R for less than $1000 and tune the car to make 100whp over stock.

Originally Posted by 66biskwik

I read this post and it was interesting no one metioned the quality of workmanship in both cars. I own a Z06 and have never seen a GTR up close so I was curious on the quality. Both cars are super fast but isn't almost like comparing apples to oranges. All wheel drive auto vs rear wheel drive standard.

Originally Posted by Texas_Venom

If they come in... looks more and more like we wont be getting any Nissans for a while.

Originally Posted by Wanderer Z06

Yep just looked it up!

Also found out that GT-R wasn't running all out. They maxed out the capabilities of the Cobb ECU management system at the track and called it quits. Car should have run 8's for sure. They said it looks like it's time for a stand alone system. Pro EFI or Motec I would imagine.

All I know is cars are getting stupid fast. Imagine 1 2 3 and your from 60 to 130mph in a street car. Wow is all I can say.

I'm sure a ZR1 will get there as soon as some shop or customer steps up with the mods and $$ to take it there.

Originally Posted by leet13

Don't flame me guys... but if I had a choice, I would go with the GT-R. I have seen a few out here and there is a white one in my apt complex. Most people wouldnt look twice at a ZR1 and may think- oh look, there goes another Corvette (not knowing what a ZR1 is all about).

I like the idea of AWD as well... GT-R looks nice... you would have some money left over to put into the GT-R and get some more goodies.

Dont get me wrong, they are both amazing but thats just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by BLK281

Thats a great point- most people will not be able to tell the difference between a ZR1 and a regular Vette. Then, to add to the confusion you can get a Z06, with all the ZR1 exterior goodies to even further water down the visual cues that distinguish between the Vette "models". Its typical GM mass production/shared platform mentality.

I am looking at both the ZR1 and the GT-R. Each one has pluses and minuses.

The GT-R lauches like nothing else..the 2012 is fast, period. It also gets A LOT of attention. Its unique. But..it has a clunky tranny, brakes are insanely expensive to work on, paint quality is so-so (paint is supposedly chip prone), its not set up for the DIY'er/backyard mechanic to dabble with, and is a little racer-boy inside the interior.

Those are my opinionated observations after spending the last 2 months looking at and spending some time in both.

To me, I don't think I (or anyone else) could go wrong with either one. Both have major pluses for them, especially given the fact of what you DO get for 100K.

Its nice to have choices, esp. when the economy makes it easy to get a deal.

Originally Posted by 355Spider

Why anyone would buy a car that is not too fun to drive is beyond me. The general consensus among people who have actually driven lots of drivers cars(GT3/GT2/Stradale, Scud) is that it's sterile. If the primary reason you buy a car to say something about you when you drive down the road the maybe a GTR can do it. I mean if your 23 and want 22 year olds to look up to you I suppose. Same reason I would never buy a Porsche TT. Old mans car. Like driving a fast couch. Buy the GT3/GT2 if you love to drive. If you'll likely cruise to starbucks in it, go out to dinner, talk to your friends about it alot and never rev it past 3500rpms then the TT is for you. Personally I love to drive. I love having a wild beast that snarls and spits and will tear your head off if you do it wrong. It's not the drivers car a Scud is but it's really damn close. The GTR is nowhere in that league. It's alot slower(no one races from a dig, except dragstrip). I have met 3 GTRs out on the road and they wouldn't even glance in my direction. I raced one at the strip in my Z06 which was a bit of a joke. 11.2@127 to 12.0 @118. I understand the 2012 is a little faster but it will get destroyed by a Zr1 in most situations, save a slick surface from 0-60.
But like I said if you buy cars to say something about you over the actual driving experience which I guess is fine then maybe go for it. Kinda like buying food that looks better on the plate than it actually tastes, just because it looks better.

Originally Posted by Turbooo2u

In a 1/4 mile, I'd put my money ALL DAY LONG on a 2012 GT-R over a ZR-1. Check the numbers out.

Originally Posted by Dave68

Correct, but the ZR1 starts pulling the GTR at about 150 and then keeps pulling to 205 MPH (vs the GTR's 191 MPH)

Also, the ZR1 brakes are superior, pulling the car down from 70 to 0 in 142 ft vs a longish 153 ft for the GTR.

Originally Posted by pcguy2u

As long as you're on a GT-R review, you might try the ride - it rides like a truck, an old truck.

Originally Posted by Dave68

Correct, but the ZR1 starts pulling the GTR at about 150 and then keeps pulling to 205 MPH (vs the GTR's 191 MPH)

Also, the ZR1 brakes are superior, pulling the car down from 70 to 0 in 142 ft vs a longish 153 ft for the GTR.

Originally Posted by 66biskwik

Hey, a message from an old guy. I wouldn't give a second look at a GTR or any other rice burner. Two wheels or four. But a ZR1 now that's a different story. But if you young guys want a thrill stop by my place and take my Stock L72 4speed 456 gear Impala with 7.75 bias ply's out and try and slam all 4 gears at 6500 and see how it all started. Yea it won't do 0-60 in 3.6 or 200mph but I guarantee when you get out you will either have a smile on your face or need new underwear.

Originally Posted by PDCjonny

In other words, ZR1 loses at drag strip AND road track.
Typical Dave68 spouting stats about cars he has only read about.

Originally Posted by Mopar Jimmy

Any truck that does 2.9 seconds 0 to 60 mph and runs in the high 10s off the show room floor, bone stock, is my kind of truck (let me tell ya)!