I think it was 7min 42.9 sec. And I thinks that from a standstill(not a running start) and stock tires(not cut racing slicks). I think it would a lot faster if it was run like the ZR1 and GTR.
I think it was 7min 42.9 sec. And I thinks that from a standstill(not a running start) and stock tires(not cut racing slicks). I think it would a lot faster if it was run like the ZR1 and GTR.
Their time of 7:50 for the Nissan GTR is quite a bit slower than Nissan's 7:29.
7:42.9 v 7:49 - Corvette ZO6
7:29 v 7:50 - Nissan GTR R35
They have yet to do a flat out run in the GTR. When they do their famous Super Test then you will have a time to compare to the Z06s 7:49 they managed in it's Super Test.
I think it was 7min 42.9 sec. And I thinks that from a standstill(not a running start) and stock tires(not cut racing slicks). I think it would a lot faster if it was run like the ZR1 and GTR.
Z06 had slicks? Not. BTW I don't think you shave (cut) slicks, R compounds, some.
I do wish to know what the diff between a rolling and standing start are. seems like it could be a lot.
There is a new test coming out in I believe C&D that pits 12 of the fastest cars out there around Willowsprings which is a long track. What we have been waiting for.
I know one bit of info that was leaked out and it is a sure thing.
The US Spec GT-R finished 3rd.
What other 2 cars would you guess beat it?
My guess is the Viper ACR is one of them for sure and Yes I'm predicting that we will see the other be the first Mag test of the ZR-1!!
Now the question is will it finish 1st ahead of the ACR or 2nd?
I guess we will have to wait and see. Mag comes out as an August issue. Can't wait to see the outcome.
There is a new test coming out in I believe C&D that pits 12 of the fastest cars out there around Willowsprings which is a long track. What we have been waiting for.
I know one bit of info that was leaked out and it is a sure thing.
The US Spec GT-R finished 3rd.
What other 2 cars would you guess beat it?
My guess is the Viper ACR is one of them for sure and Yes I'm predicting that we will see the other be the first Mag test of the ZR-1!!
Now the question is will it finish 1st ahead of the ACR or 2nd?
I guess we will have to wait and see. Mag comes out as an August issue. Can't wait to see the outcome.
Cool was the z06 includes in this test or they will keep only one vette which in this case is the ZR1
7.42,9 is correct, but it has been confirmed that when they tested the Z06, Jan would start from a standstill and time ended at that same spot one lap later.
Based on own experience and watching GTR and ZR1, that way to record time versus flying start and use different start stop place is around 7 seconds faster.
So a Z06 with Jan behind the wheels should do 7.36 ??????
7.42,9 is correct, but it has been confirmed that when they tested the Z06, Jan would start from a standstill and time ended at that same spot one lap later.
Based on own experience and watching GTR and ZR1, that way to record time versus flying start and use different start stop place is around 7 seconds faster.
So a Z06 with Jan behind the wheels should do 7.36 ??????
Rune
Jan indeed started from a dead stop as has now been effectively confirmed in print by the Corvette's Chief Engineer. Absent an accepted standard this was GM's procedure at the time. The standing start adds approximately 4 seconds to a Ring lap. This is the time needed to accelerate up to speed for the first left if you were passed by a car that was doing a flying lap. If the two cars were the same make/model and the drivers were of relatively the same skill the standing driver would remain about 4 seconds behind for the rest of the lap.
Of greater concern is the fact that the pit lane start and stop points were identical for the Z06's run. The six second time lost here is easy to determine. Just look at the GT-R's 7:38 Ring run. Note the time taken from the point at which the timer stops to where it starts when they do the camera freeze. It is approximately 6 seconds.
Taken together, Jan's run left 10 seconds on the table compared to the procedure now used on the ZR1. This would have made Jan's run a 7:32:9. Not surprising since the Z06 has essentially an identical power-to-weight ratio as the CGT.
Does this mean the Z06 is that close to the ZR1? No. Jim Mero is an exceptional driver whose talents likely exceed 99% of the drivers on the road today. However, as a former F1 pilot whose day job is flogging the C6.R race car on a regular basis Jan Magnussen's talents exceed 99.9% of drivers out there today. Behind the wheel of a ZR1 at the Ring he would be faster. Not 10 seconds faster but I would not be surprised at 3-5 seconds. Remember, quiet as its kept, Mero is really, really fast. He may not have the publicity but he has qualified through GM's difficult driver development program to be one of the chief Ring test drivers during development of the C6. The guy is as qualified as John Heinricy to set that time. Did he make some mistakes on his run or things he could have done better? Yes, but the Ring is a 13-mile track. Nobody can run it perfectly every time. It took Jan 4 tries to set his time.
That said, it is highly unlikely that Jan will be given a chance to better Mero's time. Difficult driver schedules and the huge cost of shipping a vehicle, film crew and engineers to the Ring at the precise time when a rental window is available just isn't in the cards with GM's finances and market sentiment what they are today. Be grateful for the run you saw. It cost GM an awful lot to pull it off as is.
But know this, there is one more thing GM can do to ensure that the ZR1 is a force to be reckoned with. It is something many have asked for and now they may get their wish. Stay tuned.
They have yet to do a flat out run in the GTR. When they do their famous Super Test then you will have a time to compare to the Z06s 7:49 they managed in it's Super Test.
Many more magazine tests have tested the GTR, they couldnt even get a sub 7:40. Well respected drivers have compared the GTR to the GT2 and didnt believe that the GTR was capable of beating the GT2 and certainly not even get close to the advertised 7:29. One of these drivers is regarded as one of the best in history and has won 4 F1 championships.
Many more magazine tests have tested the GTR, they couldnt even get a sub 7:40. Well respected drivers have compared the GTR to the GT2 and didnt believe that the GTR was capable of beating the GT2 and certainly not even get close to the advertised 7:29. One of these drivers is regarded as one of the best in history and has won 4 F1 championships.
Other then Nissan themselves and Sport Auto no one has ran the GTR around the ring and pubically announced anything. Sport Auto didnt do a full out test and they STILL managed almost the same time in the GTR as they did in the full out ring test in the Z06.
Other then Nissan themselves and Sport Auto no one has ran the GTR around the ring and pubically announced anything. Sport Auto didnt do a full out test and they STILL managed almost the same time in the GTR as they did in the full out ring test in the Z06.
From internet chatter some European magazines recently retested the Nissan GTR, their best time was 7:47. They still havent officially published the results but we should be seeing more about this tests in the coming weeks.
Nurburgring
Nissan GTR: 7:29.03
Porsche GT2: 7:32.02
Ford GT: 7:42
Corvette ZO6: 7:42.99
Corvette C6: 7:59
Audi R8: 8:04
Web Rides Track
Ford GT: 42.83
Nissan GTR: 43.04
Audi R8: 44.68
Corvette C6: 46.11
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Zo6 time @ Ring
A clip from Noedschleife by German magazine 
Still not bad by the GTR, is this US spec?
