Hi Guys.
First I would like to say I am not letting go of my Vette I am tiered of watching gas go up and being able to do nothing about it. I don't want to keep contrubuting to the status quo on a full time basis. I love all cars. Love my Vette but am also a big fan of the old bugs, their just so cute and toy like.
My latest car will be a 42020 dollar Toyota Yaris. Details below.
The only Yaris I have driven is an electric one. They are building it now. It will be Meteor Silver, power package, fog lights, key less entry the Hatchback model. It will be a two seat er. They will take a perfectly good Yaris, yard all the ICE components out of it and install Electric. The car should arrive in 3-4 months. It should fit well in my stable of V-8's
Top speed 70 MPH
Range 120 miles
Cost 42020.00
Battery pack good for 1500 life cycles
2yrs 24000 warranty
Like any typical American I want it now and with more power but that's not happening.
Hope I am posting in the right place. Comments, complaints or criticizing welcome. If you want more info you can go to Hybridtechnologies.com. I flew to Mooresville NC and test drove one. Regards Ray.
Location: Reno is so close to Hell you can see Sparks
42,000 bucks? Your kidding right?
I read a report about the Yaris and the Prius and it said if you are buying these cars to save money because of gas you are going in the wrong direction, The report said for the cost of the car the average person will sell it long before they see any savings. The way the report was done I see where they are comming from. Good luck with your new car. They said the advantage on these cars is emissions.
There IS something you can do other than buying a new car. Invest in the energy sector. You know the old saying, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Example using today's closing price: Say you invested the 42020 in BPT today instead of a new car. You'd be buying 396 shares.
Since BPT pays a 9.5% dividend you'd receive $4,229 per year in royalties. That's a lot of money that could be used to subsidize your current gas bill.
It doesn't take into account that your holdings most likely will appreciate as well. And, if gas keeps going up, so do your dividends.
My point. Don't waste your money on another car that's going to be obsolete when alternative fuels take hold. Invest it in the sector that's going to subsidize you while you wait for scientists and governments figure out how to beat the energy mess (that'll be a long, long wait- a lot of royalties).
Location: Reno is so close to Hell you can see Sparks
Just me again, I been thinking about that 42 grand, You said you were tired of the gas prices so you bought this car, The way I see it at 42 grand you are the only one that is going to be hurting over this deal, Not the gas companys.
Sorry, you did ask for input.
JMO.
Bill
Just me again, I been thinking about that 42 grand, You said you were tired of the gas prices so you bought this car, The way I see it at 42 grand you are the only one that is going to be hurting over this deal, Not the gas companys.
Sorry, you did ask for input.
JMO.
Bill
I elected to go a diffrent route. Yes I am paying more. Not interested in going along with the crowd. I can't hurt the gas company. They don't care about me even if I do drive three v-8's. I choose not to be completely dependents on gas. Who cares about money. Lots of people tear apart there vetts brand new and put more than 45000 dollars in them. I would rather do this. Regards Ray.
Let's see the logic here:
You can buy a Yaris for ~$13000
You can buy ~7000 gallons of gas for the additional conversion costs.
You can drive ~224000 miles on that gas (based on 32mpg combined).
You can drive over 18 YEARS (based on 12k miles/yr).
I'm sure somebody will point out if my math skills suck, but how does this make any sense at all? Oh yeah, it doesn't.
But the more people that buy hybrids and pure electric vehicles, the more gas for us!!
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The individuals buying the electric cars may not save themselves money but eventually it may help to reduce demand like the previous poster stated, more gas for us.
Let's see the logic here:
You can buy a Yaris for ~$13000
You can buy ~7000 gallons of gas for the additional conversion costs.
You can drive ~224000 miles on that gas (based on 32mpg combined).
You can drive over 18 YEARS (based on 12k miles/yr).
I'm sure somebody will point out if my math skills suck, but how does this make any sense at all? Oh yeah, it doesn't.
But the more people that buy hybrids and pure electric vehicles, the more gas for us!!
Ok Guys my last comment on this threads as I reposted in other car forum. I did not see it before. As far as your math. I drive a 05 Silverado 4-door 1/2 ton as my commuter when I am not in the Vette.
Location: Member: Double Yellow Dirt Bags San Diego, CA
I believe the all-electric Tesla is $100,000 and every one scheduled to be built is already spoken for.
Regarding today's hybrids: With the price of gas expected to reach $6.00/gallon by next year, payback for most hybrids is expected to come much sooner than what was possible a few years ago. In some cases, payback will happen in as little as 3 years. Most people DO keep their cars that long.
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Originally Posted by MRSTEAM
I elected to go a diffrent route. Yes I am paying more. Not interested in going along with the crowd. I can't hurt the gas company. They don't care about me even if I do drive three v-8's. I choose not to be completely dependents on gas. Who cares about money. Lots of people tear apart there vetts brand new and put more than 45000 dollars in them. I would rather do this. Regards Ray.
I read a report about the Yaris and the Prius and it said if you are buying these cars to save money because of gas you are going in the wrong direction, The report said for the cost of the car the average person will sell it long before they see any savings. The way the report was done I see where they are comming from. Good luck with your new car. They said the advantage on these cars is emissions.
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I think he meant $20,000. (I hope that's what he meant... though $20k sounds a bit cheap.))
My take on the whole thing is that while the car may not be pollutting the environment if the power plant generating the electricity is a oil or coal burning unit the whoe thing is almost a wash. As far as saving money...... $20,000 buys a whole lot of gas. Assuming $5 a gallon by summer's end, $20k buys 4,000 gallons. 4,000 gallons at 20 miles a gallon = 80,000 miles. That's about 8 years to break even.
Though the intension is noble and it appears that driving pass a gas pump puts a warm and fuzy feeling in your tummy I'd rather keep my car in tune, use all the tricks to improve milage and watch how I use the go fast pedal.
Those of you old enough to remember the 70's gas shortage know where I am coming from. Back then I sold my '64 VW (20 mpg) and bought my co-workers '70 Chevelle (307 c i V8 - 15 mpg) really CHEAP. At 10k miles per yr the difference was about 150 gallons. At that, the added expence in gas to me was about $200 a year. (your figures may vary) A small price to pay for going from a VW to a Chevell....
Electrics & hybrids: Like I said, a noble gesture, but until the price comes down, and the method of generating electrcity in itself is NOT oil (oil in your car or in the power plant - almost the same thing and you're still paying for it...) or another polutant such as coal (solar, geotermal, nuclear, wind, etc. are ok), and replacement batteries become cheaper and I can get the same kind of performance and better milage than we get now I think the masses will hold off. We also need to look at hydrogen!
I hope new technology and a alternative energy car that will apeal to the massses becomes available SOON. The Telsar (sp) comes real close (Vette like looks and performance), but at $100k a pop and limited production .......
If I was going to pay that much money to convert a car to pure electric, I would do it to something cool. Something like an HST International Mustang that will do 0-60 in 3.2 seconds.
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I believe the all-electric Tesla is $100,000 and every one scheduled to be built is already spoken for.
The Tesla is far from being a Yaris. It's a high performance sportscar built on a Lotus Elise chassis that does 0-60 in 3.9 secs. Hardly in the same class which accounts for the sales.
Electric Car on Order.
I am tiered of watching gas go up and being able to do nothing about it. I don't want to keep contrubuting to the status quo on a full time basis. I love all cars. Love my Vette but am also a big fan of the old bugs, their just so cute and toy like.
It should fit well in my stable of V-8's
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