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Old 11-27-2007, 11:13 AM   #1
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I just saw a feature on the new Nissan GTR. V-6 twin turbo 480 horsepower machine. Has looks of the older Zs. Lots of hareware on it.
$70,000 or so. 192 mph I missed the 0-60 time. Looks like competition for the Z06. But it ain't a Vette!
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I just saw a feature on the new Nissan GTR. V-6 twin turbo 480 horsepower machine. Has looks of the older Zs. Lots of hareware on it.
$70,000 or so. 192 mph I missed the 0-60 time. Looks like competition for the Z06. But it ain't a Vette!
Yeah do a search theres a huge number of threads on this. I believe the 0-60 was the same as the z06 or nearly so.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:10 PM   #3
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Plus.... back seat .
Minus..Not a Vette, and ugly front end. 2 cylinders too few, not a real manual transmission, lousy mileage.
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Don't forget theres a new ZR1 coming soon.

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I guess we'll have to suffer though another fast and the furious craze.
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Plus.... back seat .
Minus..Not a Vette, and ugly front end. 2 cylinders too few, not a real manual transmission, lousy mileage.

Woah wait a minute....you know that tranny will out shift a manual with less drive train loss than a manual for that matter! Gas mileage? How can you tell. The car hasn't hit the roads yet. I am sure it will get nice gas mileage on the highway, and get the same as a Vette or LS car in the city.

2 cylinders? All about technology man.
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Don't forget theres a new ZR1 coming soon.

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I guess we'll have to suffer though another fast and the furious craze.

Sure it is. But it will cost a heck of a lot more too. So Chevy ZR1 BARFFFFFFFF..Give me a C6 or GT-R over that.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:33 PM   #7
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I wonder why people keep starting new threads about this GTR?

I'm sure its a great car and I look forward to reading the independant tests on the car.

Should be this upcoming month I believe.
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Woah wait a minute....you know that tranny will out shift a manual with less drive train loss than a manual for that matter! Gas mileage? How can you tell. The car hasn't hit the roads yet. I am sure it will get nice gas mileage on the highway, and get the same as a Vette or LS car in the city.

2 cylinders? All about technology man.
What can I say, I'm a traditionalist.

There was a gas mileage estimate in the article I read that was somewhere around 12 MPG.

As far as the cylinder count, here in America, there is no relacement for displacement. Just the way I am, YMMV.
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Woah wait a minute....you know that tranny will out shift a manual with less drive train loss than a manual for that matter! Gas mileage? How can you tell. The car hasn't hit the roads yet. I am sure it will get nice gas mileage on the highway, and get the same as a Vette or LS car in the city.

2 cylinders? All about technology man.
Might outshift a manual, i doubt the less drive train loss though.

For me, a sports car must have a manual transmission. I will never go with these DSG systems. Takes all the fun out of driving IMO.
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Might outshift a manual, i doubt the less drive train loss though.

For me, a sports car must have a manual transmission. I will never go with these DSG systems. Takes all the fun out of driving IMO.
DSG combined with the drift shaft angle goes to 0% when under acceleration makes the GT-R have around 10% drivetrain loss.
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DSG combined with the drift shaft angle goes to 0% when under acceleration makes the GT-R have around 10% drivetrain loss.
We'll find out for sure when the car is actually on the streets. I still don't buy it.

With as much GTR a$$ as your kissing, why are you on the corvette forum?
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We'll find out for sure when the car is actually on the streets. I still don't buy it.

With as much GTR a$$ as your kissing, why are you on the corvette forum?
Why? Because I own a C4 Vette. And have every right to be here as you do. But I am not biased towards one car, I like many, and like a few others here, accept the GT-R for what it is, and it does perform per all the info better than the Z06.
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Why? Because I own a C4 Vette. And have every right to be here as you do. But I am not biased towards one car, I like many, and like a few others here, accept the GT-R for what it is, and it does perform per all the info better than the Z06.
Better than the Z06 where?
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Better than the Z06 where?
It scores a 10 on the ugly meter.


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um, yeah read the automobile mag review, its piggish in slow speed corners, not as precise as a z06 or 911...thank you 3800lbs shows its face has a dead on center feel in slow speed traffic, and has too stiff of a ride...its not as astonishing to driver as a porsche or nearly exciting as a z06 - Numbers are numbers, the way a car will feel in your hands is completly different
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Why? Because I own a C4 Vette. And have every right to be here as you do. But I am not biased towards one car, I like many, and like a few others here, accept the GT-R for what it is, and it does perform per all the info better than the Z06.
I am all for the GT-R considering I am going to be getting one..but i highly doubt it will outperform the Z06 fare and sq...it just doesnt make sense, it might be within 90-95% of the performance figures in 90-95% of the cases, but it still will be just that, equal or about equal, it can only clearly outperform from overall practicality and fit/finish point of view, but i cant wait..I really want to see more tests, the 7:50 from SA was a great time..now lets just see what others can do..
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It scores a 10 on the ugly meter.


you gotta be kidding me..

Sorry but i am no fan of anything older than a C6..but i think C6 is very traditionally designed sports car(smoking hot none the less), and the GTR is differently designed..

i would give Vette a 9 and GTR a 8.5 if not 9..but still GTR is an awesome looker in my books..
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um, yeah read the automobile mag review, its piggish in slow speed corners, not as precise as a z06 or 911...thank you 3800lbs shows its face has a dead on center feel in slow speed traffic, and has too stiff of a ride...its not as astonishing to driver as a porsche or nearly exciting as a z06 - Numbers are numbers, the way a car will feel in your hands is completly different
Umm I just read the review, and what you said is far from what they said. Amazing some people would lie to again make the GT-R look bad.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...t_r/index.html

Just a little blip out of the article:

As we slowly drove down the bumpy access road leaving Sendai Hi-Land Raceway, we immediately noticed the GT-R's stiff structure and suspension setup. We felt every crack and surface change along the road and we began to wonder if Nissan might have been a bit too aggressive with the setup. But a quick blast through the gears once we reached the main road told us our early concenrs were unfounded. While stiff, the GT-R reveals a level of dampening and overall suspension feel that few other cars carry. From the ultra precise and intuitive steering to the powerful brakes, the GT-R is able to maintain over-the-road speed that will, hold on for this, likely embarrass nearly every other production car in the world. Even with the adjustable Bilstein dampers in their stiffest setting, the GT-R is never harsh and it soaks up potholes and frost heaves like a rally car. Body control, front-end grip, overall balance, engine response, and transmission shift speed all come together to yield a mega car with a mega pace. You see, manufacturers don't spend loads of time and bags of money at the old Nurburgring just for bragging rights. Sure, the Nissan GT-R is faster than a 911 Turbo around the intimidating circuit, but a regimented testing procedure on the lumpy and bumpy track also yields huge benefits to real world driving dynamics. The time Nissan spent in Germany developing the GT-R proves this point. But all this work results in a car that is very easy to drive quickly, does this result in a less rewarding car? While the GT-R dances on that fine line between outright speed and videogame-like ease of operation, the grins on our faces stuck around long enough after the GT-R was driven like a hooligan machine to tell us that it is the real deal.
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Umm I just read the review, and what you said is far from what they said. Amazing some people would lie to again make the GT-R look bad.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...t_r/index.html

Just a little blip out of the article:

As we slowly drove down the bumpy access road leaving Sendai Hi-Land Raceway, we immediately noticed the GT-R's stiff structure and suspension setup. We felt every crack and surface change along the road and we began to wonder if Nissan might have been a bit too aggressive with the setup. But a quick blast through the gears once we reached the main road told us our early concenrs were unfounded. While stiff, the GT-R reveals a level of dampening and overall suspension feel that few other cars carry. From the ultra precise and intuitive steering to the powerful brakes, the GT-R is able to maintain over-the-road speed that will, hold on for this, likely embarrass nearly every other production car in the world. Even with the adjustable Bilstein dampers in their stiffest setting, the GT-R is never harsh and it soaks up potholes and frost heaves like a rally car. Body control, front-end grip, overall balance, engine response, and transmission shift speed all come together to yield a mega car with a mega pace. You see, manufacturers don't spend loads of time and bags of money at the old Nurburgring just for bragging rights. Sure, the Nissan GT-R is faster than a 911 Turbo around the intimidating circuit, but a regimented testing procedure on the lumpy and bumpy track also yields huge benefits to real world driving dynamics. The time Nissan spent in Germany developing the GT-R proves this point. But all this work results in a car that is very easy to drive quickly, does this result in a less rewarding car? While the GT-R dances on that fine line between outright speed and videogame-like ease of operation, the grins on our faces stuck around long enough after the GT-R was driven like a hooligan machine to tell us that it is the real deal.
Speaking of leaving things out, maybe you over looked these parts of the article:

Unfortunately (or fortunately), we hit a load of traffic on the return leg. This allowed us to test the Nissan in everyday driving. The first thing we noticed was how the steering began to feel a bit dead on center and rubbery on initial turn-in when the car is driven at more sane speeds. The wide, 255-section front tires tended to grab ruts a bit more than we would've liked. In automatic mode, the transmission was slow to downshift and we felt a few shudders through the drivetrain during shifts. And that early concern from this morning about stiff ride quality started to rear its ugly head. To be honest, the car started to feel a bit boring.

And this:

The GT-R is able to put down its power early and feels excellent in medium and high-speed corners. That said, we wish the engine was a bit more vocal in operation and the weight of the car, a hefty 3858 pounds, really starts to rear its head in tight, second gear corners. You have to remember that this car weighs 696 pounds more than a Corvette Z06 - that's 22% more! It just doesn't have the precise, tactile feel through low speed corners that it carries at higher speeds and on the road.

and when the trannie croaked after a 3rd burnout (so much for drag racing):

We wonder if this quick-shifting transmission will prove to be the weak link when the tuner crowd cracks the code and turns the boost up to eleven on the dial.

This was production version in Japan.

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