100,000 on my Camry
03-30-2007, 01:40 PM
#82
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I doubt replacing the water pump is a required maintenance item. It's probably cheaper to go ahead and replace it at 90K when it has to come off anyway for the belt change. If it were me, I would change it anyway since it has to come off.
Also, not all the Lexus/Toyota models have timing belts. I have to admit, I've never understood why a lot of foreign manufacturers went with belts instead of chains. Even Honda is going away from them finally.
Also, not all the Lexus/Toyota models have timing belts. I have to admit, I've never understood why a lot of foreign manufacturers went with belts instead of chains. Even Honda is going away from them finally.
03-30-2007, 01:46 PM
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The last car I sold had about 250,000 miles on it. Was an '87 Cherokee.
Car before that was an '8x Dodge Shadow. It had about 220,000 miles.
Car before that was an '85 Chrysler New Yorker. It was also north of 200k.
Car before that was a '87 Dodge Charger. It hit the quater-century mark, too.
See a trend here?
My two current drivers are a Lincoln and a Dodge. Both are sitting around 135k currently and we have no plans to retire either.
My wife and I each drive about 100 miles/day to/from our jobs and we need reliable, long-lasting cars.
Car before that was an '8x Dodge Shadow. It had about 220,000 miles.
Car before that was an '85 Chrysler New Yorker. It was also north of 200k.
Car before that was a '87 Dodge Charger. It hit the quater-century mark, too.
See a trend here?
My two current drivers are a Lincoln and a Dodge. Both are sitting around 135k currently and we have no plans to retire either.
My wife and I each drive about 100 miles/day to/from our jobs and we need reliable, long-lasting cars.
03-30-2007, 02:07 PM
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[Eagle_C6]I can't believe you guys keep your cars so long. I throw mine away at 5,000 miles. Then head to the dealership with my supermodel wife to pick out a new one, or sometimes two.[/Eagle_C6]
03-30-2007, 02:24 PM
#86
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had a 88 dodge shadow with over 140K miles on it before i sold it to get a new car. It was sold to a guy that worked for my dad and he still drives it. I believe its around 160K atm.
I am driving a 97 Mercury sable currently with over 133K miles with the 16v 6cyl. No engine probs yet. Just had it in for inspection and it needed breaks.
cars these days should make it to 200K before they start to hit the crapper if you take care of em
I am driving a 97 Mercury sable currently with over 133K miles with the 16v 6cyl. No engine probs yet. Just had it in for inspection and it needed breaks.
cars these days should make it to 200K before they start to hit the crapper if you take care of em
03-30-2007, 02:37 PM
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My '94 Z28 has 259,000 on it. Original engine, and I used to drive it pretty hard. Great car for the price. No import can can come close to comparing to the performance and reliability for the price.
03-30-2007, 03:31 PM
#89
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A lot has to do with how well they are maintained by the owner. A Lexus with 50,000 miles on the factory oil will be a POS very shortly.
I know a guy here in town who has a Renault – La Car with over 300k on the clock. Anyone knows these cars knows that they were a POS off the showroom floor. But, he takes meticulous care of the car.
I too, wish the Big two American car companies (Chrysler is now German-owned) would make more reliable vehicles - maybe some day....
03-30-2007, 05:22 PM
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03-30-2007, 09:51 PM
#91
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My 94 Jeep Grand Cherokee has 105k on it and it still looks and runs fantastic. I bought it new, it has never been garaged, and it is always out in the N/E winters. I replaced the water pump, fuel pump, fluids, one front CV joint, the oil pressure sender, shocks, brakes, plugs, filters, and tires. Never been back to the dealer, never left me stranded, burns no oil, and gets the same MPG it did when it was new. People that see it can't believe it is 13 years old.
03-30-2007, 10:15 PM
#92
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My 2002 Highlander turned over 100k a few months ago. Not one problem. I change the oil every 5k and the brake pads lasted 100,000mi.
Is it fun to drive? F%^# NO! I have a Corvette for that .
Is it fun to drive? F%^# NO! I have a Corvette for that
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03-31-2007, 01:38 AM
#93
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I would have to say that those replacements put your Cherokee smack dab in the unreliable category - sorry! Unfortunately, our Corvettes fall into the same category. Compare those problems with jimzvet's Highlander and you can clearly see the difference.
03-31-2007, 08:58 AM
#94
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Are you for real? The only non-normal wear parts were the water pump (leak), fuel pump (low pressure), and oil pressure sender (leak). 3 parts in 105k miles does not make it an unreliable vehicle. You are grabbing at straws.
03-31-2007, 05:41 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but yes, compared to a vehicle that has required NONE of those things (which can be very expensive - ask my neighbor who paid $800 to have a water pump replaced) that Cherokee is not nearly as reliable as the Highlander. Failed fuel pumps and even failed water pumps often require a tow to the dealership or auto shop - a major irritation if you must take time off from work.
03-31-2007, 07:10 PM
#96
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but 2 or 3 repairs in 105K miles is by no means excessive. That water pump cost me $40 at Pepboys + about $10 for antifreeze. From your last post it seems as though you believe that every Japanese car will go 100K+ miles with zero repairs. That is surely not the experience of my neighbors and friends. I'll assume that you have never logged over 100K miles on a car. My car has never been towed.
03-31-2007, 07:23 PM
#97
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As I mentioned, the bar has been raised and Chrysler is not anywhere near the top. It really doesn't matter if your Chrysler has had three failures if the majority of them are having many more issues. Check the stats before you insist that the Jeep is considered reliable. According to the multitude of Consumer Reports subscribers who fill out an annual survey about their vehicle's reliability, the Jeep Grand Cherokee is at the very bottom of reliability. For example, the 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, and even the 2006s are rated "Much worse than average" with major problems in these categories:
Engine cooling
Transmission
Drive system
Climate system
Brakes
Power equipment
Now, let's look at the Highlander issues:
Nada, none, nunca.....you get the picture
My advice: DON'T buy this vehicle (Grand Cherokee)for your wife or daughter!
Engine cooling
Transmission
Drive system
Climate system
Brakes
Power equipment
Now, let's look at the Highlander issues:
Nada, none, nunca.....you get the picture
My advice: DON'T buy this vehicle (Grand Cherokee)for your wife or daughter!
03-31-2007, 08:20 PM
#98
Le Mans Master
I said that MINE was reliable. Why do you constantly insist on trying to school everyone on the reliability of foreign vs domestic? Don't you have something better to do besides posting Consumer Reports car reliability ratings on this forum? I once bought a phone recommended by CR and the phone was crap. Check the web, those CR car ratings have been shown to be fudged. Maybe they should stick to toasters and washing machines.
04-01-2007, 01:07 AM
#100
Le Mans Master
Hello! Plenty of people in this thread have already said that their 100k+ mile domestic cars have had good service records. Maybe you spend too much time reading Consumer Reports.