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Old 08-10-2011, 03:42 PM   #1
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Cliffs: So does anyone have experience with ecoboost, and is better than the chevy?


I bought a 2005 5.3L sierra 1500 4 door and I now have 80K miles. It has been marginal in owner satisfaction. I get 16 - 18 mpg and it is pretty comfortable. I generally drive it in the winter and the C5 in the summer. So I am thinking of selling both and just driving a pickup. I wanted to get decent MPG, so I was considering the ecoboost. I stopped by the Chevy place today because I have $2K in credit card bonus cash. The Chevy 5.3 looked liked it got 1 mpg less than the ecoboost. For 1 MPG verses a 2K rebate, it looks like the Chevy is viable.
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Cliffs: So does anyone have experience with ecoboost, and is better than the chevy?


I bought a 2005 5.3L sierra 1500 4 door and I now have 80K miles. It has been marginal in owner satisfaction. I get 16 - 18 mpg and it is pretty comfortable. I generally drive it in the winter and the C5 in the summer. So I am thinking of selling both and just driving a pickup. I wanted to get decent MPG, so I was considering the ecoboost. I stopped by the Chevy place today because I have $2K in credit card bonus cash. The Chevy 5.3 looked liked it got 1 mpg less than the ecoboost. For 1 MPG verses a 2K rebate, it looks like the Chevy is viable.
Does the 5.3 Chevy have 365 hp and 410 ft lbs of torque? The Chevy 5.3 isn't comparable to any of Ford's top 3 engines.
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Old 08-10-2011, 03:58 PM   #3
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Depends on what you want to do with it. If your going to use as a DD and for towing here and there then 5.3 is more then adiquite. If your worried about being able to out run the pickup next to you then it's probably not.
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The 5.3 engine of today is the same as in your 2005 Sierra, however, the transmission has been entirely replaced. Instead of the ancient four speed, there is a six speed in there, which improves fuel economy. Any Silverado/Sierra model year 2009 and later, with the 5.3 engine, will get 21mpg on the higway according to the window sticker. However, they actually do better than what the window sticker suggests in both and city and on the highway.

So, the 5.3 is just as economical as the Ecoboost Ford. If fuel economy is what you are worried about, then go for the Chevy. The Ford engine has more power and torque, so will more than likely tow a bit better, but I have no experience with it so cannot say for sure. And honestly, I am one of those people who could just never own a V6 truck.

So, take your pick I guess
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I've been hearing good things about the ecoboost F150.
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Old 08-10-2011, 04:01 PM   #6
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the 5.3 is a fine engine, it just depends on what you plan on doing with it.

If you keep vehicles for a long time, i would go chevy... i just don't trust the heavy working turbos on the Eco's, as well as all the plastic piping/hoses surrounding that heat when time goes by.

i could be totally wrong but i have a hard time buying super complicated stuff especially when the warranty runs out.

If you don't keep the car out of warranty, i would probably go with the new ecoboost engine, they sure do sound good... but that worries me about it being too good to be true in time.

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Cliffs: So does anyone have experience with ecoboost, and is better than the chevy?


I bought a 2005 5.3L sierra 1500 4 door and I now have 80K miles. It has been marginal in owner satisfaction. I get 16 - 18 mpg and it is pretty comfortable. I generally drive it in the winter and the C5 in the summer. So I am thinking of selling both and just driving a pickup. I wanted to get decent MPG, so I was considering the ecoboost. I stopped by the Chevy place today because I have $2K in credit card bonus cash. The Chevy 5.3 looked liked it got 1 mpg less than the ecoboost. For 1 MPG verses a 2K rebate, it looks like the Chevy is viable.


Ooh ohh me me

I have a 5.3 Silverado 2010 edition, and just a few weeks ago I bought my wife a 2011 Lincoln MKS with the Ecoboost. The ecoboost is FAST and responsive, but in a heavy truck? I dunno. I think the v8 ecoboost is around the corner and that will surely rock. Personally, after driving the MKS, I would not buy it in a truck unless it's a v8 ecoboost.
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I've been hearing good things about the ecoboost F150.
I need to go drive one. It's pretty low hassle when my friend is selling them and he has nothing but good things to say about the power. He does get people complaining about the mileage, though. Not really sure what people are thinking is going to happen with that much weight and power.
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I need to go drive one. It's pretty low hassle when my friend is selling them and he has nothing but good things to say about the power.
Drive a new Focus while you're at it and let me know if it's any good
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Drive a new Focus while you're at it and let me know if it's any good
I actually want to do that as well. My friend claims it handles better than the '12 5.0 and would be awesome if it wasn't completely underpowered.
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Consumers Reports tested the Ford with an Ecoboost and 5.0. Both averaged 15 mpgs overall.

I'd be pissed if I spent extra for some super high tech engine promoted as so efficient, just to get roughly the same mpg as any other truck out there. They liked the exhaust rumble of the 5.0 though. The whine of the Ecoboost - not so impressive of a truck sound.

I'd bet many will be quite pissed about the real world mpgs they get with it. Big power in a full size truck takes fuel, no matter how you do it.
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My friend claims it handles better than the '12 5.0
That's pretty impressive. I need to see if my dealer has one with the handling package yet so I can take it for a spin.

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and would be awesome if it wasn't completely underpowered.
Exactly. The specs look good - 2.0L, 160hp, 6-speed DCT. They may have neutered it to get the 38-40MPG rating.
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Any Silverado/Sierra model year 2009 and later, with the 5.3 engine, will get 21mpg on the higway according to the window sticker. However, they actually do better than what the window sticker suggests in both and city and on the highway.
Please don't post BS.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/...do%201500/2011
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That's pretty impressive. I need to see if my dealer has one with the handling package yet so I can take it for a spin.

Exactly. The specs look good - 2.0L, 160hp, 6-speed DCT. They may have neutered it to get the 38-40MPG rating.
The course he talks performance minded test drivers on has some off camber stuff and broken pavement that reminds you the Mustang is rocking a live axle. I commented on that when I drove a '12 5.0 and he said the Focus soaks it up no problem.

Of course the Focus won't be chirping tires shifting into 3rd, so I have no interest in it. My Insight is cheaper comparably equipped and gets a legitimate 42 mixed instead of a theoretically possible 38 highway.
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Before my big lift and fat tires, I would get 23-24 on the hwy - because 4 cylinders would turn off, and Illinois is pretty flat. After the lift, I am getting 17-19 on the highway... Keep in mind, this is going 55 mph on HWY 14 from my house Cary, Il to Janesville, Wi. Flat, and 55. Going 65 or 75, and you were at like 17 MPG
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I have the Ecoboost in my F150 and I am very, very happy with it. I've been able to compare it to both a 2011 5.0 and a 2010 5.4 F150 and the difference is night and day. On the way to the property a few weeks ago I averaged right at 22 mpg. This was about an hour on the highway doing 70 mph and 40 minutes of back roads doing 60 mph. It would have been a little better had it not have been for 3 stretches of 35 mph through some small towns.
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The ecoboost is clearly a better engine spec wise, at least initially. It depends on how well it holds up over time.

Ecoboost
365HP @ 5000 RPM
420Lbs @ 2500 RPM

5.3 Chevy
315HP @ 5200 RPM
338Lbs @ 3800RPM
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Consumers Reports tested the Ford with an Ecoboost and 5.0. Both averaged 15 mpgs overall.

I'd be pissed if I spent extra for some super high tech engine promoted as so efficient, just to get roughly the same mpg as any other truck out there. They liked the exhaust rumble of the 5.0 though. The whine of the Ecoboost - not so impressive of a truck sound.

I'd bet many will be quite pissed about the real world mpgs they get with it. Big power in a full size truck takes fuel, no matter how you do it.
you <-------------------------> the point

They probably were stupid to call it the "Ecoboost". But, look at the power. It crushes the 5.3 V8 in torque and gets the same MPG.
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LMG VORTEC 5.3L V8 ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS
  • Horsepower 315@5200 rpm
  • Torque (lb.-ft.) 338@4400 rpm
vs.

EcoBoost 3.5L 4V DOHC V6
  • 365 @ 5000 horsepower
  • 420 @ 2500 lb.-ft. of torque

I'll take 420 lbs of torque at 2500 RPM
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The ecoboost is clearly a better engine spec wise, at least initially. It depends on how well it holds up over time.

Ecoboost
365HP @ 5000 RPM
420Lbs @ 2500 RPM

5.3 Chevy***315HP @ 5200 RPM
338Lbs @ 3800RPM
Well... I know where I'd be going.


*** A 5.3 Chevy is no good, unless you're going to replace it with a 6.2.
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