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Old 12-08-2010, 10:45 AM   #1
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Default HOA's.... How much power DO they have & WHAT homeowners do LEGALLY to fight back?

I am asking because my wife and I found a larger/newer home for sale that we would love to buy, found out that that neighborhood has a HOA.... got online to research this HOA and got spooked!

I spent 4 hours at this HOA's website trying to get a feel for how this HOA operates.... and got a very BAD feeling.

I read all of their meeting minutes and their covenants/by laws.....
Looks like you almost need to submit a written request to even move your coiled up garden hose from one side of the garage to the other! <--- I exaggerated the garden hose example to illustrate a point.

HERE is that HOA's website (The juiciest parts are found in the meeting minutes):
http://www.cottonwoodspringshoa.com/


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Both my wife and I make good money, have nice things and we take good care of our home, yard, property, etc... We take pride in our home and we keep it well maintained where we currently live, we do NOT have a HOA. I can see the good side to HOAs ....and I am also seeing the DARK side!

Is there ANYTHING legally a homeowner can do to blunt the power of a HOA that is populated by a bunch of busybody-Nazi-control-freaks?

I have a live-let-live outlook for he most part..... I mind my own business ...and get VERY P.O'ed when someone sticks their nose in my personal business...
My wife loves to create and maintain flower beds and the thought of having to "submit a plan, a drawing and a request" to plant roses versus another type of flowering plant seems ABSURD to me!!! <--- Flower example NOT exaggerated!

I can see how an HOA can do good things to help maintain tranquility in a neighborhood.... and I am now seeing how an HOA can totally STOMP on a homeowner's property rights to the extreme!


My wife and I have decided against purchasing a home in that neighborhood.

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My wife and I have decided against purchasing a home in that neighborhood.
So why the thread?
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:54 AM   #3
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This one looks good to me......I won't live in a neighborhood without one. And you should count yourself lucky that there is one that enforces the rules. Some just don't do a thing.

Read the requirements, if what turns out to be basic requirements is just too much for your sense of personality, move elsewhere. The issues in most HOA's are around people that won't pay, boats, trailers, fences and new buildings. The rest is just common sense....

I don't care how much money one has or makes, there are ALWAYS arsholes that just don't give a crap. You can be in the ballerest neighborhood and one **** just said "f-you all" and THAT is when the HOA is the best thing you can have.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:58 AM   #4
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HOAs are just, in their own way, another level of government, with all of the positives and negatives that that entails.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:04 AM   #5
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So why the thread?
looks like he edited about the time you posted...
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So why the thread?
I have never lived in a home that had a HOA..... I've heard horror stories of HOAs making some homeowner's existence unbearable. So the point of this thread is to learn if there is any legal recourse for the homeowner to restrain a HOA ... IF that HOA is run by over-reaching, over bearing control freaks.

I DO see how an HOA can help, if a complete dirtbag buys a home in your neighborhood and decides to paint this new house Pepto-Bismol-PINK and trash his property and house because he is a total slob..... I'd side with the HOA.... but.... I am also seeing the flip side too!

WHAT IF.... the HOA is run by a bunch of bored, power-hungry Busy-Bodies ...that have nothing better to do, than make homeowner's lives expensive AND miserable?!? IS there ANY tangible LEGAL recourse OTHER than NOT moving in there OR moving away?

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Old 12-08-2010, 11:06 AM   #7
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Go with your gut feeling. If you were to move in I guarantee the stuff that you are worried about now will always haunt you and you'll never be comfortable there.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:07 AM   #8
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WHAT IF.... the HOA has a bunch of bored, power-hungry Busy-Bodies ...that have nothing better to do than make homeowner's lives expensive AND miserable!

we have one who tries......
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we have one who tries......
There was an old lady in my parent's neighbor hood who was like this. It's amazing how quick she shut up when Mom videotaped her house and pointed out every little flaw at one of the HOA meetings. HOA pretty much stays away from the culdesac where my parents' house is now
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This one looks good to me......I won't live in a neighborhood without one. And you should count yourself lucky that there is one that enforces the rules. Some just don't do a thing.

Read the requirements, if what turns out to be basic requirements is just too much for your sense of personality, move elsewhere. The issues in most HOA's are around people that won't pay, boats, trailers, fences and new buildings. The rest is just common sense....

I don't care how much money one has or makes, there are ALWAYS arsholes that just don't give a crap. You can be in the ballerest neighborhood and one **** just said "f-you all" and THAT is when the HOA is the best thing you can have.
I see the point you are making and for the most-part do agree..... but having to ASK PERMISSION to plant roses versus lillies.... (not an exaggerated example)... seems like that HOA is going overboard in it's control!!
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You sound like the kind of person who should buy in a non-HOA neighborhood. If you're the type who gets filled with rage when a neighbor doesn't bring in his trash cans, works on a car in his driveway or lets his grass get long, then you should buy in an HOA.

I can't handle HOAs or even city governments so I live in an unincorporated area of our county.
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There will be tons of stuff written the may not be applied, I have seen a lot of junk in ours but never had a problem. I just went through them to get project approved and it wasnt that bad. But seems as though you already made up your mind.
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I would never live anywhere with out an HOA they will stop a lot of problems.If you maintain your property no problem.
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I see the point you are making and for the most-part do agree..... but having to ASK PERMISSION to plant roses versus lillies.... (not an exaggerated example)... seems like that HOA is going overboard in it's control!!
I doubt they would ever worry about plants, even though its in writing, you think they can keep track to down to that level, no way and not only that they wont care.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:18 AM   #15
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Love the HOA'S, would not live anyplace without one!!! Keeps the cars off the front lawns and the Campers, Boats, and RVís out of the alleys and from becoming permanent fixtures in the driveways year around!
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:24 AM   #16
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Wait, they have HOAs in the Tri-Cities?
I thought it was all mobile homes.
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Old 12-08-2010, 11:27 AM   #17
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There will be tons of stuff written the may not be applied, I have seen a lot of junk in ours but never had a problem. I just went through them to get project approved and it wasnt that bad. But seems as though you already made up your mind.

Almost made up my mind..... I am still mentally processing this HOA thing. I DO see (ideally) how an HOA CAN be beneficial! I am also seeing a dark side. This HOA thing is new territory for me. The part that really spooks me, is... it looks like they can foreclose on a home, EVEN if the so-called HOA violations are petty!

Your HOA board members may be good honest folks now... but fast forward to several years from now, you could end up with Gestapo-Nazi types..... other than selling and moving, WHAT legal recourse would a homeowner have?

I believe in the concept of "Checks & Balances" ... and legal recourse if you are unfortunate enough to have over-reaching HOA board members. So far, I am not seeing much, if any, "Checks & Balances" where HOAs are concerned.

So far, my gut is sending up warning flags.
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I wouldn't do it, find a place in a nice neighborhood that self polices these types of issues.

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They can put a lien on a home but I dint think they can for close,last 3 houses I have bought have been with HOA and never had a problem, over 20 years worth, I would not worry at all about an HOA, but thats just me, I have faith.
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Wait, they have HOAs in the Tri-Cities?
I thought it was all mobile homes.




We have the full spectrum ..... Depends on what floats your boat!



What part of the country do you live?
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