I have a 02 coupe m6. With the exception of the GHL exhaust and Callaway intake I believe the car is stock. I don't know for sure as i am the second owner...bought the car about a year ago. I may eventually want to do some more performance mods but, I really would like to make sure the car is getting the most out of its current setup.
Should I get a tune?
What would the benefit be if I did?
Where do you recommend?
What should I anticipate paying?
I'd like to get this done asap.......ideas please..... Is it possible to get this done as soon as this weekend?
You would benifit from a tune. You should see a 15-25rwp gain and tons of improvement in the driveability. I charge 450 for a tune on an N/A car and I think that is what the other tuners here in northern califonia are around.
One nice thing about a tune now is that you get the best performance you can now and then when you go to upgrade parts you will not have to pay for a full tune again. Example is that if you put on headers in 4 months if you go back to the same shop we would give you a discount on the retune. Personally I do headers on the dyno and street for 175.00 to previous customers.
It gets difficult to schedule tunes in a day most of the good guys around are pretty busy on Saturdays and it is usually best to try and set up a week in advance.
I am in Suisun City at Advanced Dyno and I use an inground dynojet and the street to do my tuning 707-425-3966.
Rick at Synergy is in Newark and uses a Dynopak and the street to do his tuning his number is 510-796-3749.
Local "dyno" tunes are a great option. Personally, I like the Halltech Tune system (a supporting vendor). It's as simple as a download from your laptop and if you have to bring the car in for service you can download the stock set-up with a click of a button; it's truly that simple. A forum friend, forum name JDRacing, and I have even been doing some simple tweaks as we learn adjustments from other tuners and car care experts. The Halltech system is a bit pricy but well worth it to me to have the flexibility and control at a click of button according to my schedule. Furthermore, I'm not real keen on putting my car through the stress of a dyno; just my humble opinion.
Both options work well. You simply need to understand what is important to you, your financial position, and available time. For me, it's all about being able to revert back to stock at a click of a button should I need to have the car serviced. From what I have gathered by comparing about a half dozen tunes to date, they are all fairly close with their data inputs; some a bit more conservative and some a bit more aggressive.
Regardless your choice, either tune will absolutely wake your car up. Besure to get a better filter as well (i.e. Killer Bee or K&N). Feel free to PM me, or even better JDRacing, for further input. Good luck!
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Local "dyno" tunes are a great option. Personally, I like the Halltech Tune system (a supporting vendor). It's as simple as a download from your laptop and if you have to bring the car in for service you can download the stock set-up with a click of a button; it's truly that simple. A forum friend, forum name JDRacing, and I have even been doing some simple tweaks as we learn adjustments from other tuners and car care experts. The Halltech system is a bit pricy but well worth it to me to have the flexibility and control at a click of button according to my schedule. Furthermore, I'm not real keen on putting my car through the stress of a dyno; just my humble opinion.
Both options work well. You simply need to understand what is important to you, your financial position, and available time. For me, it's all about being able to revert back to stock at a click of a button should I need to have the car serviced. From what I have gathered by comparing about a half dozen tunes to date, they are all fairly close with their data inputs; some a bit more conservative and some a bit more aggressive.
Regardless your choice, either tune will absolutely wake your car up. Besure to get a better filter as well (i.e. Killer Bee or K&N). Feel free to PM me, or even better JDRacing, for further input. Good luck!
The only problem with a mail order, or downloaded tune, is the fact that it is not for your exact vehicle, rather a random sampling of similar vehicles. It also never gives you the chance of actually looking at the parameters of the tune and how exactly it effects your car. It is nice to have a tuner hook into the car and moniter closely what is actually going on as you change things.
It is a good option if you feel that dyno tuning your car is abusive, although it is no more then basically a run down the 1/4 mile. Also, without putting the car on the dyno, you never really know what improvements it made other then what you think your a$$ is feeling in the seat. Either way, good luck with it. RICH
Last edited by RichieRichZ06; 06-02-2007 at 03:37 PM.
Thanks for the quality responses! They are all great options. I am going to get the car dyno tuned and see what other performance mods are suggested. Any ideas?
The only problem with a mail order, or downloaded tune, is the fact that it is not for your exact vehicle, rather a random sampling of similar vehicles. It also never gives you the chance of actually looking at the parameters of the tune and how exactly it effects your car. It is nice to have a tuner hook into the car and moniter closely what it actually going on as you change things.
It is a good option if you feel that dyno tuning your car is abusive, although it is no more then basically a run down the 1/4 mile. Also, without putting the car on the dyno, you never really know what improvements it made other then what you think your a$$ is feeling in the seat. Either way, good luck with it. RICH
The basis for a Dyno, IMHO, is to provide you with a delta of before and after performance results, assuming you orchestrate similar pull conditions using the same Dyno machine. The "actual" RWHP and or torque your vehicle puts out will be vastly inconstant with the use of different Dyno machines and varying conditions so the “true” output of your vehicle is unknown; or at least plus on minus as much as 10-15%. This is simply because there are many types of Dyno machines and conditions are dynamic. Nonetheless, the Dyno is a great tool for providing various forms of information allowing the mechanic a better means of troubleshooting and adjustment.
Relative to the strain the Dyno pull puts on your engine and drive train being no different than a run down the ¼, I don’t know about that; than again I don’t take mine down the ¼ mile. I will say that with all tracking and/or racing, things break and need to be replaced. Just depends what your use for the car is. Judging from previous postings, Richie Rich knows these cars well and can likely comment better than I. The good news is that you have options for whatever your comfort zone is…good luck!
Good comments Chuck...but I would take it to the Dyno..sure you can get a mail tune, and anyone can tell you that they can get you 20hp more from that tune, but if you don't take it to that same dyno then how do you know what you paid for. Maybe the low end torque is there, but you have a crappy top end...
As for gettting a dyno tune on a stock car...I would wait until there is something wrong with your car or you are adding something that will need it, simple headers or even a CAI. The CAI will suck in more air, but does not know what to do with it.
I put on a Blackwing and from the same dyno to dyno it pull 10hp more. I took off the CAI and now my check engine light comes on because of the tune. So I paid 150 for another CAI...hopefully this will get rid of the CE light.
My problem with the tune is that I paid $350 for a HP Tune..the initial cost is larger because you have to pay a license fee...but my tuner went out of business and I did not have my stock tune. Who knows when someone will go out of business. I just dont want to pay for another license again. Like I said, hopefully the CAI will fix things and someday Robert will have his Dyno Day so I can see my A/F again.
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Would I benefit from a tune?
Is it possible to get this done as soon as this weekend?
