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Old 05-11-2008, 07:09 PM   #1
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Default Anyone have a C5 with coilovers (or equivalent)?

.... That'd be willing to let me test drive?

Under safe speeds, of course.

Former 2002 Z06 (and 2007 C6) owner here with some curiosity to fulfill.

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EG had the only one in New England, there aren't many c/o's out there in this area
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T1, or really anything significantly stiffer than stock would do as well.
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T1, or really anything significantly stiffer than stock would do as well.
I've installed ONE set of T1 bars on over 100 C5/6's I've worked on, not many step to that level
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EG had the only one in New England, there aren't many c/o's out there in this area


I don't know anyone in the Northeast that runs coilovers except C5 Kid in Pennsylvania. He's running LGM coilovers at stock ride height, so you may not notice a lot of difference.

Coilovers from DRM, LGM and Pfadt are all great. If you want your car slammed, DRM shortened and revalved coilovers are the only way to go. T1 sways with shortened and revalved DRM coilovers plus poly bushings are about as radical as you can get on the street. That's what I am running on my 2001 coupe.

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We have 2 C5 Z06's at the shop now with pfadt coil overs on them.
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Phoenix in PA is the mecca for this stuff, they are at the top of C5/6 roadracing game for the east coast

the install is not bad, it's the setup that takes time
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There was a nice bright red Z06 in the parking lot of my work in Piscataway. Had racing seats/harnesses Aftermarket brakes/rotors and Pfadt racing stickers all over it. I didn't get right up on the car to see if had the coil overs but it looked like it from what I saw.
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you guys are crazy there are a bunch of us RR guys running Coilovers. Right off the top of my head - Roger (Roguewave) has pfadt and I have LGs which are coming out this month for NEW Hardbar Penske dual rate setup

ECS does the install and corner weight now.

Of course we are not close to CT....
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you guys are crazy there are a bunch of us RR guys running Coilovers. Right off the top of my head - Roger (Roguewave) has pfadt and I have LGs which are coming out this month for NEW Hardbar Penske dual rate setup

ECS does the install and corner weight now.

Of course we are not close to CT....
Wicked,
Whats your thoughts on these for street only and of course lower stance and who has dibs on yours?
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Whats your thoughts on these for street only and of course lower stance and who has dibs on yours?
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Hey Terry how is course this year? That is much more important than coilovers I think a vette outing would be a good idea.


My coilovers were sold with the rest of my harness equipment to Alex. As far as coilovers on the street well it is a tough decision. I put them on for better track handling. On the street they are fine and on smooth roads it is like being on glass. On rough roads its more aggressive than the C6Z feel, but still not bad. It does give the car a better look IMHO and when working correctly you will not bottom out even though the car is lower.

Personally if you are not doing track time and you are not a very aggressive driver I would look into better shocks for a vette. Penske single shocks can be setup to give you a great ride and still be aggressive for the street. It will cost you a few bucks, but it is like night and day over the stock stuff.
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I'll let you guys know soon what it's like to drive with LG's on the pothole filled roads of NYC soon. From talking to Wicked Weasel and reading and talking to LG Coilover owners, they're pretty good for the street, they won't give you a stock ride feel but on uneven roads, they absorb the impact much better than a traditional leafspring setup which transfers the impact of a pothole through the leafspring, giving you that "loss of control" feel when taking turns and hitting a pothole.

If you do alot of high speed, tight turning runs and HPDE events, you should definitely consider getting a set of coilovers.
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here is my new setup

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This is our shot at "the best", using a Penske 8700 3 way with VDP's. If you can find a better setup, anywhere, please let me know. We have studied most of the Euro and other brands, and some do some things well, others do other things well. We incorporate the best from the others and incorporate them in this package. These incorporate all of the improvements that we have been showing for a couple of months. They are the product of many, many hours optimizing the mechanical configuration by using specific length bodies, shafts and end attachments so that the tires do not hit the bodywork, and we maximize droop while maintaining spring and CV joint boot clearance.

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Note the rebound adjuster (the set screw near the lower bearing and new super alloy "T" bar. Just insert a ball driver and you have 40 clicks of adjustment. The new T bar is 2x the yield strength of the Penske part and is easily removable for spring changes.



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Note the setscrew rebound adjuster similar to the front but incorporated into the rear clevis. The quick pin is for ease of spring changes since we will be offering this package to a variety of customers (some lighter and with downforce) and is not planned for production, but is an aid for us to be able to do rapid spring changes.




The new upper mounts eliminate the upper pin top mount with a very solid Hardbar unique mount that has zero slop (US made CNC billet aluminum and SS shoulder bolts) and no threads in shear. It is very quiet with no rattles and very low friction US made Aurora bearings, and is adjustable in 2 axes for spring clearance. These are available separately for other brand shocks. You can also see our stud kit made of the same allow as the T bar.

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Even the small stuff was not overlooked, plastic covered Fragola SS hoses, new high and low speed adjusters, synthetic oil, new easy to adjust spring perches on Acme threads, and every one is dyno tested and the data is included in the purchase.
This setup is available in non-adjustable, single adjustable (with your choice of having the adjuster be bump or rebound), the superb 8300 series doubles, or the top of the line 8700 triple shown here;


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If he is looking for better handling I would suggest getting z06 sway bars, they won’t impact the ride quality and if he is going to lower the vette I would suggest getting the heavy duty bilstein shocks. They will ride a bit harder or you can get 04 z06 shocks, they will ride a bit better.

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Hey Terry how is course this year? That is much more important than coilovers I think a vette outing would be a good idea.


My coilovers were sold with the rest of my harness equipment to Alex. As far as coilovers on the street well it is a tough decision. I put them on for better track handling. On the street they are fine and on smooth roads it is like being on glass. On rough roads its more aggressive than the C6Z feel, but still not bad. It does give the car a better look IMHO and when working correctly you will not bottom out even though the car is lower.

Personally if you are not doing track time and you are not a very aggressive driver I would look into better shocks for a vette. Penske single shocks can be setup to give you a great ride and still be aggressive for the street. It will cost you a few bucks, but it is like night and day over the stock stuff.
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If you want to take a ride to Bedford, NH, you can drive my car with the above Penske setup. Mapquest says it is 196 miles from Brookfield to Bedford, NH. The offer stands for any other folks in the NE that want to check it out as well!
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If you want to take a ride to Bedford, NH, you can drive my car with the above Penske setup. Mapquest says it is 196 miles from Brookfield to Bedford, NH. The offer stands for any other folks in the NE that want to check it out as well!
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Very nice offer Gary. Its nice to have a vendor that stands behind their product and is willing to prove it before you buy it.

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Very nice offer Gary. Its nice to have a vendor that stands behind their product and is willing to prove it before you buy it.

It is extended to you! If you leave now, I will buy lunch!
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A little background:

I sold my C6, because it was way too mushy/numb for my taste. I didn't feel like spending a ton of money to get rid of the mushiness, because that probably wouldn't fix the crappy steering. I did love my 2002 Z06, but after test driving an Exige when I owned my C6, I found a new appreciation for handling and feel.

I was between buying another C5 Z06 and going all out with suspension, race seats, etc. I have a daily driver, and the roads I drive are smooth enough that it doesn't really matter how stiff the car is.

I found a nice 2006 Lotus Elise and picked it up a few weeks ago. The handling is incredible. The way the car 'speaks' to you in corners is unbelievable. It's a lot of fun. Doesn't have the torque of a Vette, but definitely makes up for it and then some with visceral feel. It's definitely the most fun I've had on 4 wheels.

The only thing is that I do feel vulnerable driving it with all the hulking SUV's around here. Even though it's reportedly very safe for single vehicle accidents and for its size, it just can't win when it's up against a truck. I guess I am a paranoid driver. I would never buy a motorcycle and I'm very cautious. I guess it all goes back to a nasty accident I had 7 years ago. I thought I would get used to it, and that it would not be a big deal as it's just a weekend toy. Maybe not.

So I am curious on how a C5 Z06 will feel with coilovers and some beefy swaybars. I've never driven a properly set up one so I am very curious. I don't expect Lotus-levels of feel, but maybe I would deal with a slight compromise to feel a little less vulnerable on the street. I know a Corvette isn't all that safer up against SUV's either, but it's more of a psychological thing I guess.

I don't care about the "slammed" look at all. I want responsiveness, feel, and I want the car to be dead flat in corners, both on the street and on the track. I was looking specifically at the Pfadt coilovers, but am open to try others.

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A little background:

I sold my C6, because it was way too mushy/numb for my taste. I didn't feel like spending a ton of money to get rid of the mushiness, because that probably wouldn't fix the crappy steering. I did love my 2002 Z06, but after test driving an Exige when I owned my C6, I found a new appreciation for handling and feel.

I was between buying another C5 Z06 and going all out with suspension, race seats, etc. I have a daily driver, and the roads I drive are smooth enough that it doesn't really matter how stiff the car is.

I found a nice 2006 Lotus Elise and picked it up a few weeks ago. The handling is incredible. The way the car 'speaks' to you in corners is unbelievable. It's a lot of fun. Doesn't have the torque of a Vette, but definitely makes up for it and then some with visceral feel. It's definitely the most fun I've had on 4 wheels.

The only thing is that I do feel vulnerable driving it with all the hulking SUV's around here. Even though it's reportedly very safe for single vehicle accidents and for its size, it just can't win when it's up against a truck. I guess I am a paranoid driver. I would never buy a motorcycle and I'm cautious. I guess it all goes back to a nasty accident I had 7 years ago.

So I am curious on how a C5 Z06 will feel with coilovers and some beefy swaybars. I've never driven a properly set up one so I am very curious. I don't expect Lotus-levels of feel, but maybe I would deal with a slight compromise to feel a little less vulnerable on the street. I know a Corvette isn't all that safer up against SUV's either, but it's more of a psychological thing I guess.

I don't care about the "slammed" look at all. I want responsiveness, feel, and I want the car to be dead flat in corners, both on the street and on the track. I was looking specifically at the Pfadt coilovers, but am open to try others.
If you setup the Coilovers correctly you will not need BIG sway bars. I realize this is against what many people have told you or post, but there are valid reasons not to have big sway bars when you have a suspension that works properly...

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