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Yeah, and rock crawling too. I need to cut back on the various options and try to get good with at least one of em. We have a place at Lake Gaston in NC and we have a 03 VLX. I used to wakeboard a lot and was pretty decent. Now we pull my daugther on the tube and she wakeboards a little as well. I get out on the board about 4-5 times per year now. Just enough to get sore.