Mike, judging by your avatar, you are a member of the River Rats? Did you fly Thuds or ??. When I was stationed at the Pentagon in the early 90s, my first boss was Col Tom McNish, MD and former POW from '66 to '73. I also served in RVN from 68-69, but as an AF ER tech at Tan Son Nhut. Anyway, I salute you, Sir, for hanging your ass out there on those missions in Route Pack I. Bob