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Old 03-11-2005, 12:25 PM   #1
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What a day.

My wife was pulled over in our Buick Lesabre for window tinting that the police officer said was at 50%. She explained that we bought the car used from a dealership and the tinting was already on it. Apparently you can have factory tinting at 50% but not aftermarket and I guess ours is aftermarket.

I fail to see the logic, 50% is 50% whether it be factory or aftermarket.

He was sitting in a parking area just looking for someone to pull over. Heaven forbid he should help with the real crimes being comitted daily in our oh so safe community..

Luckily he wasn't a total jerk and give her a ticket but come on. After she was pulled over she started noticing other vehicles that you cannot see in. At least you can see through ours. Guess theirs are factory.

For all those law enforcement officers out there, I agree that there should not be blacked out window tinting as it is a safety hazard to your already dangerous job. But how can there be a law that says you can have 50% factory and not 50% aftermarket. Does not make sense to me.

So now I get to spend the weekend removing tinting.

Any suggestions on how to get this stuff off.

Thanks for listening to me guys. I needed to
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my driver's side window was all scracthed up and i ended taking it off last year.

i just used a razor blade and goo-gone. if you can get the first layer off by peeling it off, that's the best way. then just soak the left over residue with goo-gone and then scrape it off.

i've heard some people recommend amonia, but i'd prefer not to have to smell that stuff.

it also helps if you can do it while it's hot and sunny ( good luck with that)
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I'm a P.O. however I have been off the street for several years driving a desk. I could be wrong, however I believe the side windows (drivers and passengers) can be 50% and it has NOTHING to do with factory or after market. That only comes into play with SUV that come with the rear window darker. So bottom line, check prior to removing your window tint. I tried to check with some of our officers however they don't mess with window tint violations.
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I'm a P.O. however I have been off the street for several years driving a desk. I could be wrong, however I believe the side windows (drivers and passengers) can be 50% and it has NOTHING to do with factory or after market. That only comes into play with SUV that come with the rear window darker. So bottom line, check prior to removing your window tint. I tried to check with some of our officers however they don't mess with window tint violations.
Thank you. I appreciate the info. My wife was told she had to remove all of the tinting. I am now looking to see what the law says for the back seat windows and the rear windows. Just didn't make sense to me.

Anyone who knows what the law states, please let me know.

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my driver's side window was all scracthed up and i ended taking it off last year.

i just used a razor blade and goo-gone. if you can get the first layer off by peeling it off, that's the best way. then just soak the left over residue with goo-gone and then scrape it off.

i've heard some people recommend amonia, but i'd prefer not to have to smell that stuff.

it also helps if you can do it while it's hot and sunny ( good luck with that)
I will give it a try. Only going to take the fronts off for now.

Hot and Sunny....hum...maybe a good reason to head south
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What is "hot and sunny" ?????
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my driver's side window was all scracthed up and i ended taking it off last year.

i just used a razor blade and goo-gone. if you can get the first layer off by peeling it off, that's the best way. then just soak the left over residue with goo-gone and then scrape it off.

i've heard some people recommend amonia, but i'd prefer not to have to smell that stuff.

it also helps if you can do it while it's hot and sunny ( good luck with that)
What is this "hot and sunny" you speak of???
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The Tint place here in town was advertising 50% tint. I'd double check the law before you go and take that off. It would suck to go to all that trouble when you didn't have too.

Cop must have been REALLY REALLY bored
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The Tint place here in town was advertising 50% tint. I'd double check the law before you go and take that off. It would suck to go to all that trouble when you didn't have too.

Cop must have been REALLY REALLY bored
I called around a couple of places today and they said you can have 50% on the driver and passenger windows. The rear and back door windows can be as dark as you want just not reflective.

Ok now I need to find the law that states this. I want to print it out and carry it in the car.


I guess it was just a quiet day and he needed something to do.
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don't get me started...

Just like in every profession... CEO, Priest, School Teacher; there are always a few pricks among them.
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Nothing but an armed tax collector if you ask me.

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Too bad you have to change your car because some local yocal would rather ticket this "problem" rather than deal with "real" crime.
Most of these clowns couldn't catch a cold let alone a bad guy. This is a whole lot easier and it brings money into the city without a whole lot of effort.
Kinda like the front plate law. This will never get changed, too much money with little or no effort.
I just got back from Cincinnati only 4 or 5 semi-trucks tried to run me over, this was a good trip. The state cops are too worried about someone going 66 MPH (and maybe window tint) rather than do somerthing about these "professional" drivers.
Thanks for letting me rant. Good luck with the windows.
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Too bad you have to change your car because some local yocal would rather ticket this "problem" rather than deal with "real" crime.
Most of these clowns couldn't catch a cold let alone a bad guy. This is a whole lot easier and it brings money into the city without a whole lot of effort.
Kinda like the front plate law. This will never get changed, too much money with little or no effort.
I just got back from Cincinnati only 4 or 5 semi-trucks tried to run me over, this was a good trip. The state cops are too worried about someone going 66 MPH (and maybe window tint) rather than do somerthing about these "professional" drivers.
Thanks for letting me rant. Good luck with the windows.
LOL I love responses like this.
That cop should have used his xray vision to see in the car and his mental telepathy to know the person wasnt a "real" criminal and not even bothered to pull them over. Dumb cop!

News flash genius>>>> Every single traffic stop is a chance to find a criminal who is either wanted or in the act of commiting a crime.
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LOL I love responses like this.
That cop should have used his xray vision to see in the car and his mental telepathy to know the person wasnt a "real" criminal and not even bothered to pull them over. Dumb cop!

News flash genius>>>> Every single traffic stop is a chance to find a criminal who is either wanted or in the act of commiting a crime.
...and when he finds out it's some guy's wife who hasn't bounced a check in 10 years shouldle her off with a warning, not write a ticket, correct?
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News flash genius>>>> Every single traffic stop is a chance to find a criminal who is either wanted or in the act of commiting a crime. [/quote]


I couldn't agree more. However, why pull over an otherwise stock appearing well maintained vehicle for something as minor as the windows and ignore some POS $900 '78 Olds with a booming radio, corners knocked of and $7000 worth of gold Daytons wires on it? Because it's easy, they "did their job", and most likely didn't even get away from the Dunkin Donuts.
Sorry I don't buy it.
Come down to the murder/crack/back robbing capitol of Ohio and see how these cops do their job. If the perp didn't drop his ID at the crime scene he most likely will get away with it.
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News flash genius>>>> Every single traffic stop is a chance to find a criminal who is either wanted or in the act of commiting a crime.
If this is the method that the police use to apprehend "criminals", I think I see a problem. Is the purpose of the tinting or the front license plate or the etc. etc laws to "provide" an excuse to pull over the general public? And then, go on a fishing expedition to find out what kind of other crimes they have done?

Wow. I hope that this is not normal police work. It makes the assumption that the majority of the general public are criminals.
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[§ 4513.24.1] § 4513.241. Restrictions on use of tinted glass and other vision obscuring materials.






(A) The director of public safety, in accordance with Chapter 119. of the Revised Code, shall adopt rules governing the use of tinted glass, and the use of transparent, nontransparent, translucent, and reflectorized materials in or on motor vehicle windshields, side windows, sidewings, and rear windows that prevent a person of normal vision looking into the motor vehicle from seeing or identifying persons or objects inside the motor vehicle.





(B) The rules adopted under this section may provide for persons who meet either of the following qualifications:





(1) On November 11, 1994, or the effective date of any rule adopted under this section, own a motor vehicle that does not conform to the requirements of this section or of any rule adopted under this section;





(2) Establish residency in this state and are required to register a motor vehicle that does not conform to the requirements of this section or of any rule adopted under this section.





(C) No person shall operate, on any highway or other public or private property open to the public for vehicular travel or parking, lease, or rent any motor vehicle that is registered in this state unless the motor vehicle conforms to the requirements of this section and of any applicable rule adopted under this section.





(D) No person shall install in or on any motor vehicle, any glass or other material that fails to conform to the requirements of this section or of any rule adopted under this section.





(E) No used motor vehicle dealer or new motor vehicle dealer, as defined in section 4517.01 of the Revised Code, shall sell any motor vehicle that fails to conform to the requirements of this section or of any rule adopted under this section.





(F) No reflectorized materials shall be permitted upon or in any front windshield, side windows, sidewings, or rear window.





(G) This section does not apply to the manufacturer's tinting or glazing of motor vehicle windows or windshields that is otherwise in compliance with or permitted by federal motor vehicle safety standard number two hundred five.





(H) With regard to any side window behind a driver's seat or any rear window other than any window on an emergency door, this section does not apply to any school bus used to transport a handicapped child pursuant to a special education program under Chapter 3323. of the Revised Code, whom it is impossible or impractical to transport by regular school bus in the course of regular route transportation provided by a school district. As used in this division, "handicapped child" and "special education program" have the same meanings as in section 3323.01 of the Revised Code.





(I) This section does not apply to any school bus that is to be sold and operated outside this state.





(J) Whoever violates division (C), (D), (E), or (F) of this section is guilty of a minor misdemeanor.






HISTORY: 141 v H 291 (Eff 3-11-88); 144 v S 98 (Eff 11-12-92); 145 v S 234. Eff 11-8-94; 149 v S 123, § 1, eff. 1-1-04.
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From the Ohio State Highway Patrol site:

What percent can windows be tinted on the vehicle?

On Ohio registered vehicles, window tint must allow 50 percent light transmittance on the rear and side windows, and 70 percent transmittance on the windshield. In other words, the tint can not be darker than 50 percent on the side and back, and 30 percent on the windshield.

Light transmittance of 50 percent does not apply on the windows behind the driver if there are outside left and right side mirrors. Remember, auto glass is slightly tinted from the factory and will make the tint you apply to your windows darker than advertised by the tint manufacturer.
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News flash genius>>>> Every single traffic stop is a chance to find a criminal who is either wanted or in the act of commiting a crime.

I couldn't agree more. However, why pull over an otherwise stock appearing well maintained vehicle for something as minor as the windows and ignore some POS $900 '78 Olds with a booming radio, corners knocked of and $7000 worth of gold Daytons wires on it? Because it's easy, they "did their job", and most likely didn't even get away from the Dunkin Donuts.
Sorry I don't buy it.
Come down to the murder/crack/back robbing capitol of Ohio and see how these cops do their job. If the perp didn't drop his ID at the crime scene he most likely will get away with it.[/quote]


Because what your suggesting is called profiling and as soon as the police start doing that every liberal in the country starts filing lawsuits and pointing fingers at the police. Just because they drive a beater they must be more likely to be criminals than the person in the soccer mom van right? Wrong!

Take a guess what type of cars most of the guys moving serious amounts of drugs use, while your at it guess who the smart ones have drive the cars? You got it bud, wholesome looking 30 to 40 year old men and women.
Anyway this is getting beyond poinitless. I am telling you and this is from expereince that because they look to be mom or pop citizen of the year doesn't mean squat, looks can be decieving.

If you break the law be it a simple equipment violation or a moving violation of some sort don't be suprised if you get stopped.

Trust me on this, the cop doesnt know you, he doesnt know if your a pastor in your church, he doesn't know if you spent 20 years in the peace corps, he doesn't know if your the greatest guy in the world, he does however know you just broke some type of law and thats why he's standing on the side of the road talking to you.

As to those with the stupid comment's about the cops are so dumb they cant catch anyone.......until you spend a couple years on the job and learn what the hell your talking about before spouting off.....it's you who are the dumb ones. You should phone NASA next and tell them how dumb they are for the space shuttle accident and while your at it tell them how to do their jobs to.
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