When is factory correct factory correct?

[Roscoe]

When your car come's off the line at the factory it is (All Original ) But when it is repainted again at the factory for a flaw is that not factory original?

[ED DINAPOLI]

The basic answer is yes, but: How do you know it was repaired at the factory[dealer does not count]? Can you document or prove it? Is it consistent with similar repairs?
Ed

[Tom McCabe]

If it is repainted at the factory it would still be done there so it is correct I would guess :yesnod:

Tom

[JohnZ]

The judging standard is as the car was delivered to the original retail purchaser after normal dealer preparation, so however it rolled off the truck is "original" :thumbs:

[Mike Ward]

HAH! Trick question! You switched terminology in your post.

Factory correct and factory original can be, and frequently are, two different things!

Factory correct is 'the way' the factory normally did things. Whether the car in question had it done at the factory, or during restoration is another matter.


Factory original means that what ever happened to the car during build has remained untouched since the car left the factory. You cannot restore originality!

If your car was repaired at the factory and this repair has remained untouched since then, it is both factory original and factory correct.

Confusing? :leaving:

[Paul Borowski]

Tom and I have talked several times on THIS and I know WHERE IT'S GOING!!! What we're seeing is very low mile Bowtie/Benchmark/Survivor type cars with obvious paint repairs. Well, judges see these "paint repairs" and cry, "Look at the mileage, has to be factory paint repair!!!" Car then goes on to a Bowtie/Benchmark/Survivor Award..... Then, along comes a 32,000mi car with same type of "paint repair" and the judges cry "Foul, foul it's a repaint, it's a repaint, look at the miles" I'm by no means an expert paint judge, but I can judge paint expertly :p:

[paintdaddy]

I dont mean to highjack but its kinda like this,I have done alot of 68s,and almost all of them has had the SAME repair made to the drivers 1/4.I am assuming that there was sort of mishap on the line that caused this and they were all repaired at the factory.Is this possible?If so I could definitly see alot of factory repairs being made . :seeya

[Roscoe]

Paul,
Mileage should have nothing to do with it, BUT it does.Why?
Were not judging the miles.
Back in the late 70's building a car was just a job to the autoworker, they knew that they were going to lose there job ( moving to Bowling Green ) Building 50M units They just put then out the door,and Let the dealer Fix it.

Go Through th Bowling Green Plant and see the NEW cars comming off the Assembley line and going to the shop for some kind of repair. I was told they work 24 hours in that shop.

I have a 79 that has a bad looking paint spot in the front , when I asked the original owner ( THE FIRST ) he said that was there upon delivery The Chevy.Dealer wanted to repaint it but he said NO.
Now when you look at it it looks like a Bad Repaint .

When you see TWO cars with the same mistake on them does that make you think that what happened could have been a factory job.

Epilog; WERE Not giving away Gold here just a stinkin throphy. But I guess if some people think? a car is altered then, they are all not factory correct.

[JohnZ]

If you had spent as much time as I have at St. Louis, the answer to the paint question would be obvious; St. Louis was an old, decrepit, run-down facility with the oldest, crummiest paint shop in the country that had nothing but band-aids applied to it for years to keep it running, the air full of dirt and fiberglass dust, etc. About 85% of C1-C3 production went through off-line paint repair after they came off the line (not counting several trips through the repair loop while the body was still in the paint shop) just to get them "commercially acceptable". Very few Corvettes ever left St. Louis without at least one trip through off-line paint repair. If it weren't for the near-heroic efforts of the people who beat their brains out every day in that decrepit old paint shop, those cars would all look like they were painted with Kem-Tone and a roller :yesnod:

[Mag Red Man]

John, very interesting. Before I bought my Yellow 70, I saw overspray on the blackout near the emission sticker, so I thought the paint had at least been repaired somewhere in it's history.

I was able to track down the original owner hwo confirmed the overspray, and other paint defects when he picked up the car at the dealer in Jan. of 1970.

[Roscoe]

Thanks John,

I think the Exterior Judges of NCR$ should get together with YOU and others who worked at St. Louis. Then they will use their Heads and not their Fingers.

[wallyknoch]

Having old cars like mine, Original and factory correct would be two different things. Unrestored would be another element to consider. Original should be untouched as it was delivered. Factory correct cars could be anything to the specifications of the particular model that many people could build after obtaining the car if not the original owner. A clone of a FI car or making a L88 is an illustration. GM made 1900+ FI 62`s and now you can find one everywhere. They may be factory correct, and not original FI cars but are passed off as such. I personally do not use paint as a element of unrestored cars as that old paint after 40+ years, the car would look horrible as mine once did. That was not the way I felt the car should be presented as not being fair to an original FI car. Dayton knock-offs are not original or factory correct but thats my problem. It`s never classified at shows as factory correct because of the wire wheels and trailer hitch. It`s moved into the custom classes where it never wins based on shere points alloted to changes the customs can accumulate. :cheers: I didn`t answer a thing did I :D :thumbs: