I have a set of Rally IIs on my 71 BB. I just bought the NCRS manual, and it seems the rims should have casting codes too. My wheels just doesn't have any codes...reproductions? Other model? I also have two original and two non-original trim rings on these wheels...full mix.
Is this common? Other location for codes? How to identify original Rally IIs?
Original trim rings for sale anyone?
The numbers stamped near the valve stem are covered with heavy paint sometimes and only show up after that area is bead blasted. On the center hub by the lug nuts you should find K-1-2 the last number is the year made and are easy to read to see if your rims are Kesley Hayes.
Hi Matthew,
If you going to have your car judged you only need to have 1 correctly coded wheel since only the spare tire's wheel has a code that can be seen and thus judged.
The trim rings are a little more complicated. There were several variations and even the 'over the counter' trim rings bought years ago may be different than what was used in production.
The variations have to do with the placement of the 4 clips relative to the hole for the valve stem, and the configuration of the large ring that those clips are attached to.
How specific do you want to be in looking for trim rings?
Regards,
Alan
Hi Matthew,
If you going to have your car judged you only need to have 1 correctly coded wheel since only the spare tire's wheel has a code that can be seen and thus judged.
Alan, nothing prohibits a judge from looking thru the trim ring stem hole to look at dates and codes. Although difficult to discern sometimes, I've seen it done.
...Alan, nothing prohibits a judge from looking thru the trim ring stem hole to look at dates and codes. Although difficult to discern sometimes, I've seen it done....
I'm with Alan. My 1970-72 NCRS judging manual says only the spare can be judged for a date code since the other four wheels will have trim rings or P02s installed and the dates would not be visible.
Mike, thanks for reciting the guide, but I beg to differ. Please go back and re-read my post. I can look at my 70 and see the AZ codes thru the valve stem holes with the trim rings installed on all four mounted wheels!
The manual is a guide, complete with flaws and not the be-all end-all and on the judging field the judge has the discretion to check the wheels with trim rings installed if they can see them and if he chooses. I've witnessed this from 300 and 400 level Master judges that wrote the manual.
What do you recommend the judge do on a car that shows up with no trim rings on the mounted wheels? Close his eyes and pretend? Believe whatever you like.
Hmm, my wheels are covered by thick (ugly) gray paint. I checked near the valve stems but there's nothing under the paint. I'll get them sandblasted, and who knows what will be found...
The manual is a guide, complete with flaws and not the be-all end-all and on the judging field the judge has the discretion to check the wheels with trim rings installed if they can see them and if he chooses. I've witnessed this from 300 and 400 level Master judges that wrote the manual.
Exactly! It's quite common for an Exterior judge to look through the valve stem hole in the trim ring to check wheel codes - some do, some don't (I do). However, if you only have one correctly-dated wheel, the best place to put it is on the spare; many judges only check for it on the spare, and you'll get full credit, as the benefit of the doubt always goes to the owner.
Exactly! It's quite common for an Exterior judge to look through the valve stem hole in the trim ring to check wheel codes - some do, some don't (I do). However, if you only have one correctly-dated wheel, the best place to put it is on the spare; many judges only check for it on the spare, and you'll get full credit, as the benefit of the doubt always goes to the owner.
Thanks John. FL weather was great at the Regional.
The numbers stamped near the valve stem are covered with heavy paint sometimes and only show up after that area is bead blasted. On the center hub by the lug nuts you should find K-1-2 the last number is the year made and are easy to read to see if your rims are Kesley Hayes.
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