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Old 12-19-2008, 05:41 PM   #1
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Default CE block w/ cast date near Assy date

I am working on pulling together parts to build as close to factory correct engine for my 1969 L71 roadster which currently has a 454 in it.

I have found a CE 512 4 bolt block with an L 30 8 cast date. My car build date is January 7th, 1969. I already have some L3 and L4 8 (840) heads.

I would like some feedback/advice on this possible move as it relates to the ncrs world.
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Old 12-19-2008, 10:17 PM   #2
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You will pick up 175 points for the corect casting date and 87 points for the correct casting date. Not sure if you will get points for the stamp pad finish which is worth 38 points. I think you will fget 50 points deducted for VIN and Assembly stamp.
As I understand the judging score sheets.
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Old 12-20-2008, 09:02 AM   #3
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Is only one week prior to Assembly date for a block casting still considered acceptable w/ no deductions?
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:29 PM   #4
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Is only one week prior to Assembly date for a block casting still considered acceptable w/ no deductions?
That's a pretty close call - there were only five working days between the date the block was cast and the day the car was built, to get the block from the foundry to the engine plant, get it machined and assembled, then rail-shipped from Tonawanda to St. Louis, unloaded, and to the line.

I'd check with the '71 National Team Leader first (Stan Falenski) - his contact info is on the inside cover of the NCRS "Restorer" magazine.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:30 AM   #5
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don't forget new years day I am sure was a GM Holiday.... so 4 working days..
I think the freshly cast block has to cool for 2 days.. prior to machining
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...That's a pretty close call...
I agree. Too close for comfort.

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Old 12-22-2008, 06:01 PM   #7
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I went right to the source, Chuck Berge 68-69 NCRS team leader. He said it will not be a problem. Which just made my day.

Thanks to all those who weighed in. Learned a lot in the process. Steve.
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it may not be a problem for the ncrs because it meets their criteria, but if I was a buyer I would pass on the car.. same is true the other direction, the ncrs says a 6 month old block can be put in a car and still pass... I would not buy a car with a claimed original engine, and pay original engine money, that was cast 6 months prior to the car build date.
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it may not be a problem for the ncrs because it meets their criteria, but if I was a buyer I would pass on the car.. same is true the other direction, the ncrs says a 6 month old block can be put in a car and still pass... I would not buy a car with a claimed original engine, and pay original engine money, that was cast 6 months prior to the car build date.
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