Corvette Forum  


Go Back   Corvette Forum > General Corvette Topics > Engine Mods
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Register Vendors Buy a Vette Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ PhotosGarage

Engine Mods Outrageous Builds, High-Horsepower Modifications, strokers, and big cams for the Corvette

Corvette Store
 
 
C6 Parts & Accessories
C5 Parts & Accessories
Wheels & Tires
Sponsored Ads
 
 
Vendor Directory
 
Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-22-2003, 03:22 PM   #1
Monty
CF Senior Member
 
Monty's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 1999
Location: Park Ridge IL
Default Engine Oil Analysis

Anyone here regularly send their engine oil in for analysis?

I am planning on doing this and wanted to see if anyone has any recommendations. I was planning on using Blackstone Labs since they are relatively close to me. This seems like a good idea considering the investment and effort many of us have put into our engines.
Monty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2003, 11:07 PM   #2
ram82fire
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: May 2001
Location: spring city pa
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (Monty)

Monty many of the large oil suppliers offer this as a free service to large truck fleets . It really is a good service and allows you to pinpoint specific component wear problems . It is definitely an all win win situation .

Geo :thumbs:
ram82fire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2003, 11:25 PM   #3
Monty
CF Senior Member
 
Monty's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 1999
Location: Park Ridge IL
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (ram82fire)

Hi Geo,

I just figured it was an inexpensive way ($20) of knowing what's going on inside the engine. When I was in the Army, I know the mechanics used to do it on a regular basis. I think my HUMMV got a new engine as a result of it.

I'm about to perform my first oil change after a few hundred miles of street use and thought it would be worthwhile to start now as a means of establishing a baseline. It might not be the most accurate since there will probably be higher than normal amounts of certain contaminants like moly and silcone from the assembly lube and sealants, etc. Of course it's the trend over time, or big changes from test to test that are the indicators of problems.
Monty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2003, 02:20 AM   #4
gkull
CF Senior Member
 
gkull's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 1999
Location: Reno Nevada
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (Monty)

Years ago on the forum there was a guy that worked for some big power plant and he talked about it. They could tell exactly what was going on. He gave a detailed write up of which metals were used in each motor piece from copper to zinc. They have a PPM per cc of oil ratio.

My chipped up roller made me decide to go with an all new block.........
gkull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2003, 08:34 AM   #5
mountainmotor
CF Senior Member
 
mountainmotor's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2001
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (Monty)

I use ANA Labs out of New Jersey. Good service at a reasonable price.

Something to think about is the interpitation of the results as some of the newer oil formulations useing additives that will show false positives such as Polyalkyleneglycol could seem to lead one to believe that he/she has anti-freeze in the oil or Lead Naphthenate that would likely make one think they are having bearing trouble. Same with Moly if it's in the formulation. Can't tell how much is the MoS2 vs the ring pack never the less analysis is a fun hobby and although it's not 100% accurate " + or - 4 ppm" it sure can expose the weak oils out there and there are many :yesnod:
mountainmotor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2003, 02:01 PM   #6
WashingtonRacer
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2001
Location: Renton Wa
Send a message via AIM to WashingtonRacer
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (mountainmotor)

Yeah, and if you come across any yellow #40 dont worry, most likely whom ever was building the engine dropped a butterfinger in it.

WashingtonRacer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2003, 02:13 PM   #7
Monty
CF Senior Member
 
Monty's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 1999
Location: Park Ridge IL
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (WashingtonRacer)

Well, since I built it, I can guarantee there is no candy bar residue in it. But I suppose traces of malted hops and fermented yeast is a possibility ;).
Monty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2003, 08:32 PM   #8
71coupe
CF Senior Member
 
71coupe's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2001
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (Monty)

Lab One in Tucson is an option. I think you would need to do it regularly to identify any changes.
71coupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2003, 10:57 PM   #9
arnold
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Default Re: Engine Oil Analysis (Monty)

Monty, Blackstone is a good choice, however you may find that http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/terry.html has results a bit more detailed than Blackstone. Ah, I don't believe he can diagnose the paticular brand of candy that was used, however. BTW, good oil forum available at: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
arnold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 09:10 AM   #10
greendot
CF Senior Member
 
greendot's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2005
Location: Motor City area Michigan
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnold View Post
Monty, Blackstone is a good choice, however you may find that http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/terry.html has results a bit more detailed than Blackstone.
That link appears dead and I can't find on that forum a specific test source. Any leads?
greendot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2010, 08:22 PM   #11
mr.beachcomber
CF Senior Member
 
mr.beachcomber's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2003
Location: Virginia Beach VA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by greendot View Post
That link appears dead and I can't find on that forum a specific test source. Any leads?
Try Blackstone Labs
mr.beachcomber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2010, 03:02 AM   #12
Joy of 6
CF Senior Member
 
Joy of 6's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2005
Location: Vancouver WA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.beachcomber View Post
Used Blackstone from new and they are good. On my preprinted form I have Mobil 1 5/30 as oil of choice and they came back and said it appeared to be 10/40. I called and told them that I had added one qt of 20/50 for a hot track day and they were able to diagnose it. I was impressed.
Joy of 6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2010, 02:15 PM   #13
Pumba
CF Senior Member
Support Corvetteforum!

 
Pumba's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Location: Northville Michigan
Default

I have used Blackstone Labs successfully for years:





If you read the report you can see where I started adding ZDD+ to improve my Zinc and Phosphorous levels.

-
Pumba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2010, 02:15 PM
 
Go Back   Corvette Forum > General Corvette Topics > Engine Mods
Reload this Page Engine Oil Analysis
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
analysis, analysys, california, engin, engine, inexpensive, oil, southern, testing, tucson


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Click for Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Oil analysis results, 8000 miles with Castrol 0w30 Patman C5 Tech 46 08-28-2005 01:29 PM
My oil analysis results with German Castrol 0w30 Patman C5 General 62 10-25-2004 08:39 AM
Engine Oil Analysis update chadwick C5 General 25 10-09-2004 09:32 AM
Engine Oil Cooler Follow Up (long) VetteDrmr Autocrossing & Roadracing 23 09-23-2004 09:26 PM
Engine oil analysis 69 C5 Tech 11 12-03-2003 07:27 AM
Oil analysis after a 8,719 oil change interval chadwick C5 Tech 24 10-15-2003 11:06 AM
Oil analysis results for 7000 mile oilchange zwede C3 Tech/Performance 42 01-18-2002 03:46 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.5.1 PL1
Emails & Password Backup