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Old 11-30-2009, 01:19 PM   #1
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Default Treat Yourself for the Holidays Intake and Throttle Body Special!

From December 1st through December 31st we are offering a great porting and tuning special. Treat yourself, or convince the wife/girlfriend that this would be a great gift for you and your LSx pride and joy.

We are now making our ported intake manifolds and throttle bodies available together for $350.00 shipped for a Stage 1 and $425.00 shipped for the Stage 2. In addition, if you would like a your vehicle email tuned and optimized for this greater air flowing ability (with HP Tuners), we will do this for just $200.00. Even, if you don't have HP Tuners, you can send us your PCM and we will do it that way. With this combo of tuning and fully ported manifold/tb you could see up to 30 rwhp and 35 rwtq gains.

FAST manifold porting reduced to $300.00 for this time period as well!
Stage 1 intake only $275.00 shipped
Stage 2 intake only $350.00 shipped


Normally our stage 1 intakes are $300.00, Stage 2's $375.00, TB's $150 and mail order tuning $275.00. Done together for now for only $550.00 stage 1 or $625.00 for stage 2, you will save $175.00. That's enough to still get the misses a little something extra nice while still packing in another 30 or so naturally aspirated horses under your hood. Not bad.

Stage 1 information:

The average gain for the LS2 intake manifold is 11rwhp/13rwtq. We have done over 325+ LS2 intake manifolds, 90+ LS7 (18RWHP and 20RWTQ), 35+ LS3 & L76s (12RWHP and 15RWTQ) and over 325 TB's.
We have had many cars gain much more than the averages listed.
20RWHP from an LS2, 32RWHP for an LS7, and 30RWHP from a L76 and 22RWHP from an LS3, 35RWHP from a FAST.
When porting the TB you will see greatly improved throttle response and bottom end/mid range Tq feel and a significant seat of the pants gain. Our manifolds are very thoroughly ported not only in the runners (like some do) but also much of the plenum and TB flange are enlarged in order to support more airflow in the upper RPM. The larger the air reservoir the less likely to deplete more volume in the upper RPMs. Hence the OEM difference of the '00 LS1 intake vs the '01 LS6 intake.

Stage 2 information:


Stage 2 porting is taking the manifold to its limit - as much of the plenum is removed while still staying safe from vacuum leaks, which takes about twice the time to port.
The FAST manifold utilizes as much plenum volume as possible within the space requirements - the larger the air reservoir the less likely it is to deplete it at medium and high rpm. Hence the difference from an LS1 to an LS6 manifold, plenum volume. (We have tested this manifold swap many times for an avg gain of 10RWHP and 10RWTQ; again plenum volume.)

We rework all the runners for an even deeper cut and we use a much more aggressive sanding method, even deeper than the 8 inches we typically port in the stg 1 manifolds. For stage two manifolds we remove the inner posts and completely flatten the plenum floor all the way to the back on the inside of the manifold as well as the outside so as to make a sort of air gap between the valley and manifold base. We epoxy small aluminum plates, screw them in, and then epoxy the inside as well, to prevent any air leaks. This stage 2 manifold porting is a cheaper alternative to a FAST manifold, but it is also designed for someone that is trying to FULLY optimize their power on a budget. We are targeting those that want the MOST from the stock manifold at a decent price.

On our own GTO we tested the stage 2 manifold vs our stage one and we picked up an additional 6rwhp and 7 rwtq on an A-B test on the dyno same day, same weather, same engine conditions. This is in addition to the 11/13 from the stage one manifold We also had an independent test done by a shop in NY and they gained over 15+rwhp and 18+rwTQ.
We do not offer stg2 for the FASTs. We port all of them as aggressively as possible over 3.5 hrs per manifold.




If you want us to send you directly a ported intake and throttle body, a core charge of $550.00 applies ($275.00 each), but it is refunded as soon as we receive your undamaged originals back. To send us your intake and throttle body for porting the turn around time is typically 2-3 business days.



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Note: we do not port LS1 or LS6 manifolds as there are no measurable gains associated with these manifolds.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:35 PM   #2
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It looks like the Stage 1 (LS2) nets more power than the Stage 2...?
Is the throttle response better w/the Stage 2?
Id rather save the $75 for 1hp 2 rwtq unless the throttle is more responsive.

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Old 12-02-2009, 04:49 PM   #3
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why no lt1 products
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:34 PM   #4
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It looks like the Stage 1 (LS2) nets more power than the Stage 2...?
Is the throttle response better w/the Stage 2?
Id rather save the $75 for 1hp 2 rwtq unless the throttle is more responsive.
Quite a bit of tuning required to see those #'s on the LS2 stage 1.
Throttle response is the same on either the 1 or the 2 as the throttle body porting is the same on either package.


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The flow bench is a great tool and so is the dyno but there are many things that are very different in the real world. For example the flow bench doesn't pull on all 8 cylinders through the plenum, (when you are flowing a port you pull backwards thru other ports) its not the full load of what the engine is doing. When tuning - one can see the amount of vacuum being pulled on through the MAP sensor. The reason we offer the stg 2 intake is to make the most possible plenum volume where the engine is demanding it the most. When the LS3s and L76s came out we were seeing much more vacuum in the intake than ever before.

Not all of them are home runs, but many times we can match the intake with the exact combination. For one to say that a bolt on car doesnt need a stg2 is just not a fair assessment. The FAST is going to be the Best manifold out there, we are merely trying to make a manifold that is the best for the dollar.

By the way we have NEVER SEEN A LOSS OF part throttle torque or full throttle power as a result of increasing plenum volume.


Take a look at this recent dyno:
2010 M6 Camaro full intake and exhaust, run 2 had a base tune in it, run 3 was the intake swap and the last run was the fully optimized tune with a little bit more spark advance. This is a very recent A-B test of a LS3 stock intake to a stage 2, performed on a dyno jet in S Florida.






Results will vary and each car is different, with this one performing on the higher end of the scale, but the intake was a large factor in achieving these results.

Here is a 07 A6 Vette - had a fully optimized Formato tune, re baseline the car and installed the stage 2 intake. Again, the increase in power is not simply a peak power increase but is significant through out the entire RPM range. Same day, same conditions, A vs B test.

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