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Old 09-30-2006, 10:29 AM
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Single valve springs are sufficient for an application
of mine but it has been suggested that I consider using
dual springs as a safety measure.

The reasoning is that since the car is a driver/autocrosser
and may not get the same attention as a dedicated track car,
a secondary inner spring could save the engine in the event of
a broken primary outer spring.

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Dual springs or single with a damper are for harmonics. I don't know what your setup is, but unless you require higher spring pressure like a solid roller you going to have trouble finding a dual spring in light closed or open #s

There are alot of other things to worry about before a broken spring! It's very uncommon compared to the number of cars out there racing around
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I have had 2 broken springs on my 97'.............with doubles..............saved my stroker twice!
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Originally Posted by ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE
I have had 2 broken springs on my 97'.............with doubles..............saved my stroker twice!
Really - In all my years of being around hot rods it was very uncommon. Even in the pits while Super Comp/ S.E. racing where all the faster machines are pitted the only time i ever saw broken springs was the guys doing .800+ lifts. US mid .700 lift people never had a problem. Same thing in sprint car racing. Never have even heard of broken springs and these 360/410s are doing mid 8000 rpm twice a lap

I've had valve impacts, broken off valves, broken roller rockers, bent push rods, smeared pistons, holes bigger than a quarter from detonation, and finally this year a broken crank shaft. Lots of other problems in my vette, but never a spring

I do check my spring pressure periodically and install springs every couple of years. I never reuse springs on a rebuild. I throw them away. I also far exceed max lift minimums. I even use +.050 retainers to lower the seat pressures to what I need. Right now I now I bought some .750 max lift springs and with the +.050 retainer it gives them a max lift of .800. My new cam is only .665 lift gross so i won't even be stressing them and they run cooler. I also don't buy cheap springs. I also talk to the local paved circle track motor builders and they told me years ago that they only run 195# seat Mid 500 open. They rev to 8000 twice a lap and the springs last all year without a problem. I never go over 7500 rpm so I feel pretty safe making my installed height bigger and dropping my seat pressures to the 190-195# range and Open pressures of around 560#
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It looks like the approach to take is to understress the springs.
I'll check that pressures and coil bind clearances have cushion
and stick with the singles.

Thanks for the replies.

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Originally Posted by ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE
I have had 2 broken springs on my 97'.............with doubles..............saved my stroker twice!
I'd want to know why.
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
I'd want to know why.
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