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Old 02-15-2003, 07:54 PM
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I just found out I can run down to 11.5 in my vert as long as I have a 5-point restraint :D

So what's the scoop?

Do I need a new seat, and if so, is Sparco the only option?

If not, how and who can modify the seat?

And where can I get belts?

thanks :cheers:
Old 02-15-2003, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (Mean Green 2000)

I got my belts from Jegs. I got the G-Force camlock belts. No you don't need a new seat but don't you need a bar? The sholder belts have to mount ot something.

Also, I know IHRA rules allow 11.5 without a bar but I thought for the vert to get this rule you had to run a hardtop (at least NHRA rules).

Old 02-16-2003, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (REDGAR)

First step for a Vette is a roll bar! Unless you invest in a removable hardtop. :yesnod:
Old 02-16-2003, 03:52 PM
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First step for a Vette is a roll bar! Unless you invest in a removable hardtop. :yesnod:
thanks Al but I really wanna avoid that at all costs and Bradenton allows me to run to 11.5 with the restraints, hence the question :) :cheers:
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The sholder belts have to mount ot something.
thanks....and yes, I need to attach it to something and was hoping to see options of those as well, all I saw was West Coast Corvettes :)

Also, I know IHRA rules allow 11.5 without a bar but I thought for the vert to get this rule you had to run a hardtop (at least NHRA rules).
Bradenton has posted rules and I'm just going by what they say...they're definitely not as strict as most tracks :D
Old 02-17-2003, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (Mean Green 2000)

Stock seat works, but as a vert you will possiblt need a bar. Email Dave to clarify. If not a setup like ours works great! Crossbar & RJS belts. (I'll give you the part# if needed, it is at home.) Easy install! Look at ours close this Sat!! :cheers:
Old 02-17-2003, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (Mean Green 2000)

Mark if you are allowed to run without the roll bar then the should belts will go on a bar that can be mounted from sholder bolt to sholder bolt.

Like the Hardbar or Crossbar.

Do a search in our mall here for "harness bar" and you will find three different ones.
Old 02-17-2003, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (REDGAR)

Ecklers, Mid America, etc. all offer these bars that bolt in behind the seats to allow attaching a five point set of belts. You can also mount a video camera to them. I guess you could get one with a chrome finish, or the usual black. That would work great if you get the gears and converter, and whatever else. At some point tho I would want a roll bar if I was in a rag top doing 110+mph in the quarter! See ya in a couple days! :seeya
Old 02-17-2003, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (REDGAR)

Mark if you are allowed to run without the roll bar then the should belts will go on a bar that can be mounted from sholder bolt to sholder bolt.

Like the Hardbar or Crossbar.

Do a search in our mall here for "harness bar" and you will find three different ones.
ok, :cool:....I'm starting to see a few options, now just to see how the side and middle belt is attached :D
Old 02-17-2003, 10:40 PM
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Sides usally mount to the floor bolts I think.

The front belt you either drill a hole by a bar that attaches to the two front seet bolts and has a bolt in the center for the belt. Hardbar sells this.
Old 02-18-2003, 01:31 PM
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Sides usally mount to the floor bolts I think.

The front belt you either drill a hole by a bar that attaches to the two front seet bolts and has a bolt in the center for the belt. Hardbar sells this.
:cool:....sounds like I'll be well on my way soon :D :reddevil
Old 02-22-2003, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (Mean Green 2000)

why bother mounting belts good if you do not have a roll bar just use some duct tape,or crazy glue them to the carpets. :)
Old 02-22-2003, 10:19 PM
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why bother mounting belts good if you do not have a roll bar just use some duct tape,or crazy glue them to the carpets. :)
WTF :confused: :smash:
Old 02-22-2003, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (vettercr87)

Ron that is just wrong man.

Many road racers use 5 or 6 point and the mount to the seatbelt mount bolts and to a harness bar. Nothing like being held snug in your seat while making sharp turns
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (REDGAR)

It might be a little wrong but would you feel safe going in the 11's WITHOUT a bar???? NHRA makes rules for a reason bro and if you don't care about them cause somebody will let you"slip by" then why even bother attempting to please them.
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (Mean Green 2000)

I went to the Bradenton web site to look for rules, but I couldn't find where they post class requirements, or safety equipment rules. Just for the record, NHRA requires a 5 point bar and a 5 point "restraint" system on any hard top car running 11.99. Same requirements for convertibles running 13.99. Good luck, and...

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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (vettercr87)

Yes I agree safety comes first but IHRA is 11.49 for a rollbar so is NHRA more safe or IHRA reckless?

I don't really like the letting slide by either.

PS, I don't feel more safe running 12.01 vs 11.99 with a bar.

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Old 02-24-2003, 09:14 PM
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Edgar,
The IHRA rule is 13.49 for verts. I want to see ALL the safety rules complied with! And so do several sponsors!
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thanks guys....I just wanna comply and Marc, I know you have some issues with me and others that you didn't express to us :)....I'm just trying to find out what the rules are and what I have to comply with.....the "extra weight" I'm saving right now doesn't have anything to do with brackets ;)....like I said, I just wanna know what it takes to run my times at Bradenton ;) :cheers:
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Default Re: 5-Point Restraint? (Mean Green 2000)

Mark, I have no issues with you or any other of the FCC racers! I HAVE issues with made up rules that serve only to indanger fellow racers! The IHRA & NHRA have established rules to keep our sport as safe as possable. We as drag racers should strive to follow these and stay safe in a not-always safe sport. In my 20+ yrs of drag racing, I have seen terrible accidents and many lived to race another day.........because the RULES were inforced!
Have you ever seen a C5 vert with the shiney side down? Not a pretty site!
Mark, my issues are not against you, their to protect you.


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