Ya Think 10's are Possible ?
09-26-2013, 09:50 PM
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Ya Think 10's are Possible ?
Well after having a minor setback on the dyno Cartek is building me a motor for next yr.. (I doubt it will be ready for this yr)
My previous best was 11.59 in "killer air" .. with only Kooks and a 2800 converter..
Next yr it will be a 403 ci with Cartek Heads & Cam..Kooks, and a FAST102 intake..
I'm keeping the 2800 converter.. (save a few $$) because I'm sure I'll be low 11's ...I'm just wondering if this set up will get me into the 10 sec zone ??
Also thoughts about a NHRA legal bolt in roll bar... ??
My previous best was 11.59 in "killer air" .. with only Kooks and a 2800 converter..
Next yr it will be a 403 ci with Cartek Heads & Cam..Kooks, and a FAST102 intake..
I'm keeping the 2800 converter.. (save a few $$) because I'm sure I'll be low 11's ...I'm just wondering if this set up will get me into the 10 sec zone ??
Also thoughts about a NHRA legal bolt in roll bar... ??
09-27-2013, 12:59 AM
#2
Melting Slicks
Is the " NHRA legal rollbar for keeping youse outta da inside or inside keepin youse outside da cahr? thinlk about that for awhile biggy boy!
We still luv no matter what John, go get 'em
We still luv no matter what John, go get 'em
Last edited by hookedup; 09-27-2013 at 01:02 AM.
09-27-2013, 01:17 PM
#4
Drifting
John, I think you will be in the 10's for sure. One thing you can do is have Julio set the throttle response to slow you down so that you do not have to worry about using a bar.
09-27-2013, 01:53 PM
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Beside last week I heard there were only 2 11.5 Index cars.. I'd rather have a high 10 car, & do the chasing..
Between the ported heads, cam FAST intake, Kooks headers etc.. I expect to be a very low 11 or high 10 car..
I can get a NHRA legal roll bar for about $1300 with a swing out & removable side bar,... We'll see how it goes with your car as they both will be very similer...
09-27-2013, 02:06 PM
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John, really, if your car doesn't run 10s in the summer with those mods, you need to send it to the crusher...
09-27-2013, 05:01 PM
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THAT (along with that stock 2005 rear/stock 3.15 gears) could be your only possible hurdle, you really need a higher stall and 3.42s (or even 3.73s) to do it 'right'. But that 2800 will hopefully now act a little bit more like a 3000-3200 with that extra power/torque behind it and either way it will certainly still be better than trying to do it all with a stock converter. 
That RSD bar that was introduced a couple of years back looked pretty good but I personally don't like the 'roll bar' thing.
I would sooner run 11.50s with ease (with plenty in your pocket in all weather conditions) than struggle/beat the hell out of the car (the added 50+ pounds of said roll bar only adds to that struggle too of course) on every pass trying to run the 10.8s (or quicker) that it might actually be capable of. But that's just me.
There is NO shame in having a 10 second capable car yet only competing in an 11.50 bracket/index, ask the likes of Farley, Ellis, Gary, even myself etc how we know this.
That RSD bar that was introduced a couple of years back looked pretty good but I personally don't like the 'roll bar' thing.
I would sooner run 11.50s with ease (with plenty in your pocket in all weather conditions) than struggle/beat the hell out of the car (the added 50+ pounds of said roll bar only adds to that struggle too of course) on every pass trying to run the 10.8s (or quicker) that it might actually be capable of. But that's just me.
There is NO shame in having a 10 second capable car yet only competing in an 11.50 bracket/index, ask the likes of Farley, Ellis, Gary, even myself etc how we know this.
09-27-2013, 05:40 PM
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Melting Slicks
Oh boy here we go! John,You think you had traction problems before?????? 
Oh yea,You should be in the 10's Your gonna need a truck & trailer.
Oh yea,You should be in the 10's Your gonna need a truck & trailer.
09-27-2013, 05:46 PM
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THAT (along with that stock 2005 rear/stock 3.15 gears) could be your only possible hurdle, you really need a higher stall and 3.42s (or even 3.73s) to do it 'right'. But that 2800 will hopefully now act a little bit more like a 3000-3200 with that extra power/torque behind it and either way it will certainly still be better than trying to do it all with a stock converter.
That RSD bar that was introduced a couple of years back looked pretty good but I personally don't like the 'roll bar' thing.
I would sooner run 11.50s with ease (with plenty in your pocket in all weather conditions) than struggle/beat the hell out of the car (the added 50+ pounds of said roll bar only adds to that struggle too of course) on every pass trying to run the 10.8s (or quicker) that it might actually be capable of. But that's just me.
There is NO shame in having a 10 second capable car yet only competing in an 11.50 bracket/index, ask the likes of Farley, Ellis, Gary, even myself etc how we know this.
That RSD bar that was introduced a couple of years back looked pretty good but I personally don't like the 'roll bar' thing.
I would sooner run 11.50s with ease (with plenty in your pocket in all weather conditions) than struggle/beat the hell out of the car (the added 50+ pounds of said roll bar only adds to that struggle too of course) on every pass trying to run the 10.8s (or quicker) that it might actually be capable of. But that's just me.
There is NO shame in having a 10 second capable car yet only competing in an 11.50 bracket/index, ask the likes of Farley, Ellis, Gary, even myself etc how we know this.
Marc... you make some VERY VALID points.. maybe I should slow it down to run 11.50 "ALL YEAR AROUND" the heat won't matter as I will have enough ET in the bank to run 11.50 even in 90 deg weather..
And.. I'll be saving weight as you said, and will be a LOT easier on the rear end, & I can shift it at 6800....less of a beating on the valve train...(even though Julio said it will be good to 7200)
AND The wife won't know how much $$ I spent on it, she is NOT drag race savvy, but she DOES know that a roll bar is required for FAST CARS... & I never had one in any of my Vetts...Thats the last thing I want is her asking WHY the Roll Bar...
09-27-2013, 06:15 PM
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Marc... you make some VERY VALID points.. maybe I should slow it down to run 11.50 "ALL YEAR AROUND" the heat won't matter as I will have enough ET in the bank to run 11.50 even in 90 deg weather..
And.. I'll be saving weight as you said, and will be a LOT easier on the rear end, & I can shift it at 6800....less of a beating on the valve train...(even though Julio said it will be good to 7200)
AND The wife won't know how much $$ I spent on it, she is NOT drag race savvy, but she DOES know that a roll bar is required for FAST CARS... & I never had one in any of my Vetts...Thats the last thing I want is her asking WHY the Roll Bar...
And.. I'll be saving weight as you said, and will be a LOT easier on the rear end, & I can shift it at 6800....less of a beating on the valve train...(even though Julio said it will be good to 7200)
AND The wife won't know how much $$ I spent on it, she is NOT drag race savvy, but she DOES know that a roll bar is required for FAST CARS... & I never had one in any of my Vetts...Thats the last thing I want is her asking WHY the Roll Bar...
That can be your story and stick to it. 
09-27-2013, 08:43 PM
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09-27-2013, 11:22 PM
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& I'd save on gas...
09-27-2013, 11:53 PM
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JPee, go back to playing BINGO. Look where all that fast **** got me? A return of .10 on the dollar.
