ATCO Sunday March 10/ New found respect for the 10 sec drivers
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ATCO Sunday March 10/ New found respect for the 10 sec drivers
Thought I'd post a little about my 4 runs at ATCO March 10th, I have a 08 Black Z06 w/440" , WCCH Worked Heads, Mcleod Clutch, ARH Headers, BB Fusion, 102 LSX Intake & TB, Halltech Super Beeline C/F 102 Pak etc, etc.....540+ rwhp on a Mustang Dyno, besides all that, I love the car, it is a screamer!!! to start, no excuses, I ran the best I could, I really have no seat time, just got the car back from Slowhawk Performance in Bridgewater , Ma, Don and Nick are good guys, they'll take care of you, the tune is spot on!! my 1st pass, I was fumbing with the line loc, no good!! need to practice, blew 2nd gear pretty bad, and let off, 2nd pass, really just cleaned off the M/T 'S ON 17" WELDS, left at about 3000 rpm, spun some, felt like I shifted early, ended up 11.3 @127 and 1.9 60'. 3rd pass, over eager, looking to hit the 9's this time, I was wound up!! haha!! really blew this pass!! embarrassing to say the least...well, the final pass felt primo spinning most through 1st but hitting 2nd good, I reall thought this was the one, anyway, 11.5 @127 2.0 at the 60' mark, both runs 99.7 fir the 1/8 mile, so, just saying, I'm in awe of the men who go out and hit hoigh 9's and low tens with much less than I do!! thatws some serious driving to hit them times!! I know I need major leaque seat time, I'm 50 and havn't had a standard in 30 years!! that was with a 1970 LT1, I was so good I never even used the clutch, it was all second nature back then!!! well, that was then, I'm a lttile down on myself, but, I always figure, if I go racing for the day, and get home with myself and car in oone piece, then, it's all good, great time, seen alot of old friends, met some new ones, see you at the track, I'll be a practicing!!!!
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all that matters is...did you have fun?
We all start somewhere and whether your experienced or not if you have a high powered ride that you haven't put on the track before it's going to be a learning game of how to tame it to get the best times you can get.
We all start somewhere and whether your experienced or not if you have a high powered ride that you haven't put on the track before it's going to be a learning game of how to tame it to get the best times you can get.
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Gotta respect the shifters! It ain't easy, practice, practice.. Seat time does it!
What about the guys who are rowin into the nines!
What about the guys who are rowin into the nines!
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It's all about the fun factor. Times are very good for the 1st time out there with a manual.
I remember the manual days. 1 car had 125 passes on it, 3 tranny's, 4 clutches and a bent axle in the 12 bolt. It was fun slamming gears though.
I remember the manual days. 1 car had 125 passes on it, 3 tranny's, 4 clutches and a bent axle in the 12 bolt. It was fun slamming gears though.
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Don, sounds like you where rippin that car to shreds, you should be banned from driving a manual!!!! your abusive and a destoyer!!!!
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Nice to have met you out there. Sorry I did not see any of your passes. I was concentrating on Andrew's black C5Z. Let us know the next time you are down. Perhaps we can assist. Glad to see you had fun and enjoying the car.
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I saw your car and one of your runs where you spun badly..The car has potential to run low 10's maybe 9's if you can get your 60' times down..
I have the LMB C6 that won the GM vs MOPAR I only have a few mods, Headers, converter, CAI, and a tune by Cartek out of NJ.
I was running 11.63 - 11.64 @ 118 mph all day with 1.60 60' times but I'm an automatic, a lot easier to launch than a stick car..
Keep at it and you will see 10's for SURE... maybe 9's
I have the LMB C6 that won the GM vs MOPAR I only have a few mods, Headers, converter, CAI, and a tune by Cartek out of NJ.
I was running 11.63 - 11.64 @ 118 mph all day with 1.60 60' times but I'm an automatic, a lot easier to launch than a stick car..
Keep at it and you will see 10's for SURE... maybe 9's
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The great thing about the times I ran, has motivated me in a big way,!!!I'm determined to get the most I can from my set up!! GARY2004Z06 it was great to meet you, if I remember correctly, you run sick numbers!! You have really earned them!! No doubt about that!! Jpee, I saw your car, nice! I wanted to come over and introduce myself , however, you looked like you had enough goin on w/out me interrupting! No doubt, I'll be seeing you all soon.I've got the rowing the standard bug bad! I really would like nothing more than to master my car, it really is a beast, and I want to tame it!! See you at the track!! Soon
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Thought I'd post a little about my 4 runs at ATCO March 10th, I have a 08 Black Z06 w/440" , WCCH Worked Heads, Mcleod Clutch, ARH Headers, BB Fusion, 102 LSX Intake & TB, Halltech Super Beeline C/F 102 Pak etc, etc.....540+ rwhp on a Mustang Dyno, besides all that, I love the car, it is a screamer!!! to start, no excuses, I ran the best I could, I really have no seat time, just got the car back from Slowhawk Performance in Bridgewater , Ma, Don and Nick are good guys, they'll take care of you, the tune is spot on!! my 1st pass, I was fumbing with the line loc, no good!! need to practice, blew 2nd gear pretty bad, and let off, 2nd pass, really just cleaned off the M/T 'S ON 17" WELDS, left at about 3000 rpm, spun some, felt like I shifted early, ended up 11.3 @127 and 1.9 60'. 3rd pass, over eager, looking to hit the 9's this time, I was wound up!! haha!! really blew this pass!! embarrassing to say the least...well, the final pass felt primo spinning most through 1st but hitting 2nd good, I reall thought this was the one, anyway, 11.5 @127 2.0 at the 60' mark, both runs 99.7 fir the 1/8 mile, so, just saying, I'm in awe of the men who go out and hit hoigh 9's and low tens with much less than I do!! thatws some serious driving to hit them times!! I know I need major leaque seat time, I'm 50 and havn't had a standard in 30 years!! that was with a 1970 LT1, I was so good I never even used the clutch, it was all second nature back then!!! well, that was then, I'm a lttile down on myself, but, I always figure, if I go racing for the day, and get home with myself and car in oone piece, then, it's all good, great time, seen alot of old friends, met some new ones, see you at the track, I'll be a practicing!!!!
Once you get down the basics, you'll start shedding .1's quickly and your mph will go up a bunch also.
It's hard to learn on such a fast, limited traction vehicle also.
Give a shout next time you go and maybe we can give you some pointers.
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Gary & Rob can and will help you out on launch technique and more if you listen. They helped me along with 6 or 7 others all in one day in November. Rob's the man with his fast, yet calculated tell all's to net me my personal best 60', ET, 8th mile time and mph and fastest/quickest 1/4 mile ET's.
Seat time is a huge part. Another huge part is listening.
Cheers and good luck on getting a great ET
Seat time is a huge part. Another huge part is listening.
Cheers and good luck on getting a great ET
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Everyone has a bunch of lousy passes in their early careers, but like anything else, if you stick with it, listen to those who are further down the path than you and practice, you'll get it.
It's really rewarding when you put it all together and get a fast pass in a manual car.
Hope to see you at PBIR sometime.
It's really rewarding when you put it all together and get a fast pass in a manual car.
Hope to see you at PBIR sometime.
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Everyone has a bunch of lousy passes in their early careers, but like anything else, if you stick with it, listen to those who are further down the path than you and practice, you'll get it.
It's really rewarding when you put it all together and get a fast pass in a manual car.
Hope to see you at PBIR sometime.
It's really rewarding when you put it all together and get a fast pass in a manual car.
Hope to see you at PBIR sometime.
Liberty Trans is the best, I personally think its better than an automatic ....in the 1/4 mile !!
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Joe what or how much improvement in ET do you think you would get if you had a "Liberty" 5 speed trans ...same as the Pro Stock cars use.. you don't need the clutch to shift, & there is NO dog leg..just pull straight back, then push straight forward...I had one when I ran a D/A in Comp eliminator way back when I was young LOL..
Liberty Trans is the best, I personally think its better than an automatic ....in the 1/4 mile !!
Liberty Trans is the best, I personally think its better than an automatic ....in the 1/4 mile !!
I think money is better spent on a clutch that will slip and not bog. Check out Lou launching on the redline but bogging...1.7 60 foot.
But man that trans is cool for a race car, I agree with you!!
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I'm thinking not that much...surely not $25k worth. And I couldn't live with that whine in my daily driver.
I think money is better spent on a clutch that will slip and not bog. Check out Lou launching on the redline but bogging...1.7 60 foot.
But man that trans is cool for a race car, I agree with you!!
I think money is better spent on a clutch that will slip and not bog. Check out Lou launching on the redline but bogging...1.7 60 foot.
But man that trans is cool for a race car, I agree with you!!
That car ran 7.97 @ 171 mph and it was only 290 CI Bow Tie motor...the motor was built by Bob Ingles from Bedford NY and it had a Don Ness Tube Chassis .... it had 5.xx gears in it depending on the weather, & track conditions....
PS I wish I had the $$$ I had put into that car.....
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Melting Slicks
I'm thinking not that much...surely not $25k worth. And I couldn't live with that whine in my daily driver.
I think money is better spent on a clutch that will slip and not bog. Check out Lou launching on the redline but bogging...1.7 60 foot.
But man that trans is cool for a race car, I agree with you!!
I think money is better spent on a clutch that will slip and not bog. Check out Lou launching on the redline but bogging...1.7 60 foot.
But man that trans is cool for a race car, I agree with you!!
Which clutch are you referring to that slips? My stick C4 is currently in the shop getting a 9" solid axle. I will also at some point change the clutch and would like to get one that I can slip (and have it live).
Thanks,
Steve
PS-Cool video of your (In-Car) pass!!
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Hello,
Which clutch are you referring to that slips? My stick C4 is currently in the shop getting a 9" solid axle. I will also at some point change the clutch and would like to get one that I can slip (and have it live).
Thanks,
Steve
PS-Cool video of your (In-Car) pass!!
Which clutch are you referring to that slips? My stick C4 is currently in the shop getting a 9" solid axle. I will also at some point change the clutch and would like to get one that I can slip (and have it live).
Thanks,
Steve
PS-Cool video of your (In-Car) pass!!
I have yet to see an aftermarket clutch that will allow the slip launch I do, seems the guys that get the dual disk end up bogging. I am always looking as I guess I'll have to replace my clutch someday. They don't make mine anymore.
I think McLeod makes a slipper clutch but I don't know much about it...I think RobZ runs it, you might pm him.
Thanks, I did that with my iPhone and a $20 suction mount from Best Buy. I like it too, wish I'd have thought to do it a long time ago as I'd like to see how I do on each run.