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Old 10-24-2008, 11:55 PM   #1
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Cut a 1.40 tonight with a 3600 stall converter!

Even more impressive to me was that it was on a 275 drag radial.

I have been messing with the C6 tunes a lot lately to get these cars consistently 60'ing lower and like I have said before, they can be tuned fast and consistent!

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1.40 in a C6 with any transmission is no joke, that gobs of extra power certainly helps get it outta the hole too though.
When some of us mentioned sixty footing issues in a C6 auto I think we were referring more to stock/near stock ones and bolt on cars.



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Even more impressive to me was that it was on a 275 drag radial.

I have been messing with the C6 tunes a lot lately to get these cars consistently 60'ing lower and like I have said before, they can be tuned fast and consistent!
Yeah? What kind of sixty foots have you been getting on some of the naturally aspirated A4s and A6s?

I did watch Dennis50nj's C6 A4 cut another 1.47 sixty foot yesterday, bolt ons only of course and on 18" drag radials no less.
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That is amazing 1.40 on those little DR's. Great job with that car Doug
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:40 AM   #5
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Doug my Stock C6 - 60' on 100 shot of nitrous see below, this was a couple of years ago.

1/4 Mile ET: 10.866
1/4 Mile MPH: 125.300
1/8 Mile ET: 6.938
1/8 Mile MPH: 99.840
60 Foot ET: 1.576
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I am also curious to know what the best 60' on a bolt-on c6 auto is.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:10 AM   #7
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I am also curious to know what the best 60' on a bolt-on c6 auto is.
As mentioned above it is in fact Dennis's car's (Cartek tuned 2005 A4) 1.47.
I was simply curious what the best Doug has seen after tuning them?
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That is great. It will only get better with you working on it.
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1.40 in a C6 with any transmission is no joke, that gobs of extra power certainly helps get it outta the hole too though.
When some of us mentioned sixty footing issues in a C6 auto I think we were referring more to stock/near stock ones and bolt on cars.



Yeah? What kind of sixty foots have you been getting on some of the naturally aspirated A4s and A6s?

I did watch Dennis50nj's C6 A4 cut another 1.47 sixty foot yesterday, bolt ons only of course and on 18" drag radials no less.
Dennis' car is great, what is his stall? I would figure a bolt on car would be higher geared and stalled which would even the power thing out some. Besides it's a centrifugal on a stock block so it doesn't have that much out of the hole.

I recently found a little lope hole that helps get em out of the hole better, and well this one I'll keep to myself.

Only a handful of our forged C5's 60' that low so I think I'm on to something, I'll be testing several cars shortly.

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That is amazing 1.40 on those little DR's. Great job with that car Doug
Thanks Edgar, nice talking with you.

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Doug my Stock C6 - 60' on 100 shot of nitrous see below, this was a couple of years ago.

1/4 Mile ET: 10.866
1/4 Mile MPH: 125.300
1/8 Mile ET: 6.938
1/8 Mile MPH: 99.840
60 Foot ET: 1.576
Thats movin' Jerry, nice pass. Are you stick or auto?

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That is great. It will only get better with you working on it.
Thanks Rob, I think I have completely eliminated that split second delay from when you hit the gas to when it goes too, so I'm expecting some more .0x-.1x lights out of you soon!
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I'm an automatic........My 60' averages are low 1.6s NA. Of course I have not kept the car with the same setup since I seem to always be breaking my trans or rear. Changes in stall convertor, RPM trans, and taller tires, and now a very aggresive cam. Perhaps it will stay together long enough to be able to run some consistent numbers. I love to spray but will now be reducing the shot from 150, or making sure that I don't spray on the launch.
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275 doesnt suprise me............been doin 1.4xs for years on my slow 97'
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My 96 with a 3200 Pro Torque had 1.65 and that car had a stock cam & heads..3.73 in the rear....Gotta get a converter and 3.42 for the new car and I'm hoping for something close to that.. (1.65)
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Is it common to refer to high stall TC's and gears as "bolt-ons"? In my eyes they're internal modifications but I seem to be the only one who sees it that way because they're not engine mods.

What's the best C6 A6 60' with nothing more than a tune, intake, exhaust and DR's?
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Dennis' car is great, what is his stall? I would figure a bolt on car would be higher geared and stalled which would even the power thing out some.
He has a Vigilante 3600-3800 with 3.73 gears and made roughly 375rwhp on the dyno (might read a little more if locked).







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Is it common to refer to high stall TC's and gears as "bolt-ons"? In my eyes they're internal modifications but I seem to be the only one who sees it that way because they're not engine mods.
I'm not sure how it was back in the old muscle car days (some tell me that the definition of a 'bolt on' was a bit different back in the day) but lately, with the LSx world at least, gears and torque converters are in fact considered bolt on (aka: stock internal) modifications. This is especially endorsed/approved/universally accepted over the key message board for LSx racing information, LS1 Tech.com. The basic premise states that if a modification does not touch engine oil and maintains the car's naturally aspirated configuration then it is a bolt on item.


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What's the best C6 A6 60' with nothing more than a tune, intake, exhaust and DR's?
I think it's still a 1.8x and that's with or without exhaust and/or drag radials (my best stock tire sixty foot was almost identical to my best DR time), the magic number seems to be 1.85. I've seen so many A6s (and A4s) cut that as a best, it's like an invisible barrier of some sort LOL.
I'm shooting for a whopping 1.84 next month on my DRs but I know it won't be easy.
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He has a Vigilante 3600-3800 with 3.73 gears and made roughly 375rwhp on the dyno (might read a little more if locked).

I think it's still a 1.8x and that's with or without exhaust and/or drag radials (my best stock tire sixty foot was almost identical to my best DR time), the magic number seems to be 1.85. I've seen so many A6s (and A4s) cut that as a best, it's like an invisible barrier of some sort LOL.
I'm shooting for a whopping 1.84 next month on my DRs but I know it won't be easy.
On Thurs. at Atco I had 2 runs 1.851 and 1.855 (staging VERY shallow) I'll bet the house if the weather is "Killer" at E Town in the next few weeks "IF.. repeat IF" Jeanne would stage very shallow she would do better than 1.850 she'd make the 184 or better, and run 12.0x

However I prefer she DON'T do that as she has to stay consistent on the tree, and she prefers to DEEP Stage... but weighing in at 105 lb she still might break into the 1.84 60' and 12.0x if its great weather!! (I think)
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Is it common to refer to high stall TC's and gears as "bolt-ons"? In my eyes they're internal modifications but I seem to be the only one who sees it that way because they're not engine mods.

What's the best C6 A6 60' with nothing more than a tune, intake, exhaust and DR's?
With CAI, Corsa Sport, Kooks headers, BFG DR's and a 8850 Tune, I did one 1.87, two 1.88's and a bunch of 1.89's this year-all burning out in S mode Looks like 1.85 is the low for this setup.
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My best 60ft so far is 1.555 and that's with only 410rwhp, but with a 3600 Yank and 3:42 gears.
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With CAI, Corsa Sport, Kooks headers, BFG DR's and a 8850 Tune, I did one 1.87, two 1.88's and a bunch of 1.89's this year-all burning out in S mode Looks like 1.85 is the low for this setup.
Yup, I said it in another thread just last night, so many of us A6s in stock/near stock trim (and with stock stalls/stock gears) seem to be stuck in that same 1.85-1.89 sixty foot range.
I'm trying for a 1.84 (CAI, drag radials, t-stat and tune) my next time out.






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My best 60ft so far is 1.555 and that's with only 410rwhp, but with a 3600 Yank and 3:42 gears.
And that's one of the best sixty foots I've heard of so far for an A6 car, at least a naturally aspirated one. You should be able to lower that a little more though in cooler air, your car has all the tools needed to get it done.

The modified A4s do seem to be able to sixty foot much better than the modified A6s.
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And that's one of the best sixty foots I've heard of so far for an A6 car, at least a naturally aspirated one. You should be able to lower that a little more though in cooler air, your car has all the tools needed to get it done.

The modified A4s do seem to be able to sixty foot much better than the modified A6s.

I think it's the track prep (or lack thereof) that's holding me back since the highest I've been able to launch (without spinning the tires like crazy) is around 2100RPM.

I talked to Dave from Yank about this and he talked me into swapping my SS3600 converter for a PT4000 which has a lower STR so hopefully it'll result in better 60ft times. I'll probably do the swap early next month and will be sure to post my results afterwards. The cool thing is that I really like how the 3600 drives around town so he told me that I could switch it back if I don't end up liking the PT4000.

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I did watch Dennis50nj's C6 A4 cut another 1.47 sixty foot yesterday, bolt ons only of course and on 18" drag radials no less.
Anything else to say about that track day?
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