Well, it's called Orlando Speed World but I don't know why the word speed in in there.. Drove 100 miles to get there.. I unloaded the car and made one pass.. Went sideways off the line (and I have never spun since switching to the Hoosiers at any track). Went off the gas to straighten out the car and went on the gas again.. The car went sideways again. When I tried again at the 1/8 mile and the rear came loose again, I left off the gas and drove back to the pits, loaded up and went home
Orlandos track prep has a bad reputation on Test&Tune nights and this reputation is justified. The track prep was a joke.. Well, my car was the only faster car there.. The fastest car, other than mine, was a mid 11 second Mustang.. Lots of Ricers.. Well, the track prepping was probably enough for a 16 second ricer but not for a real race car..
This was my last trip to a Test&Tune in Orlando.. I'm not gonna waste my money for gas and to race if the track is dangerousely slick.. I'm usually not scared but that track with the lack of prepping is a death trap... Imagine going sideways at the 1/8 mile
I told you, Olivier...all you had to do was call me and I could have saved you the trip...everyone around here knows that friday night is street night and they never, ever prep the track on friday nights...been this way for years...if you come on a wed. night you will have decent prep and if you come on a saturday night for a Summit event you will hook as good or better than BMP...
I'm not here to defend OSW but no serious racer ever comes near OSW on friday nights...I wish you had checked first...oh well, live and learn and now you know..
I told you, Olivier...all you had to do was call me and I could have saved you the trip...everyone around here knows that friday night is street night and they never, ever prep the track on friday nights...been this way for years...if you come on a wed. night you will have decent prep and if you come on a saturday night for a Summit event you will hook as good or better than BMP...
I'm not here to defend OSW but no serious racer ever comes near OSW on friday nights...I wish you had checked first...oh well, live and learn and now you know..
I have been there on Friday nights but I was there with my C6 on street tires, so I wasn't sure if 10.5 inch wide slicks would hook or not...
Friday is the only weekday night that I can make it to Orlando, so I don't think that I'll ever make it on a Wednesday..
Like I said before, I have never spun with those Hoosiers since I put them on..
Location: Pettis Performance 565 with two stages of Nitrous Supply nitrous 1.082, 4.61 at 155, 7.17 at 192
FWIW, the faster a car gets the more risky it is to peddle it, chassis loads and unloads...lots of power reapplied....can make the car do WEIRD things.
I saw a guy do a 180 and run his new Viper into the wall backwards at about 80 mph on an unprepped track. The Viper guys thought it was because of all the torque of the Viper After the guy totaled his car they prepped the track I went a mid 9 later that day.
FWIW, the faster a car gets the more risky it is to peddle it, chassis loads and unloads...lots of power reapplied....can make the car do WEIRD things.
I saw a guy do a 180 and run his new Viper into the wall backwards at about 80 mph on an unprepped track. The Viper guys thought it was because of all the torque of the Viper After the guy totaled his car they prepped the track I went a mid 9 later that day.
I personally never stay in it if the car starts going sideways.. I'm not going to risk my life over a fast ET. The track was in no condition for a sub 11.50 car, so any more runs would've been a waste of expensive race fuel and a risk to my life..
Oh those muffler rules keep you out of lot of things don't they?
I'm not gonna spend $1000 to have a vacuum pump added just to be able to add some mufflers that are gonna cost me HP.. The mufflers might be cheap but reconfiguring the car to work with mufflers isn't.. I just refuse to pay money to make my car slower
There's no way to get down to 90 db with 14.2:1 compression without costing significant HP..
Last edited by GrandSportC3; 01-27-2008 at 12:36 AM.
I hear what you are saying but it seems like you are always looking for races and then we always find you cannot race in them because you have no mufflers.
Doesn't it make sense to spend $1000 to get into several races that require mufflers with the expectation that you can win that back?
I did not see payout for that race but it has be pretty decent. If you cam up here to race in our area, you can race Atco 10 for $800, Pro 10.0 for $150 and E-town index for $200 and you have the pump covered and on top of that, you would be able to race in any muffler event in the future.
I hear what you are saying but it seems like you are always looking for races and then we always find you cannot race in them because you have no mufflers.
Doesn't it make sense to spend $1000 to get into several races that require mufflers with the expectation that you can win that back?
I did not see payout for that race but it has be pretty decent. If you cam up here to race in our area, you can race Atco 10 for $800, Pro 10.0 for $150 and E-town index for $200 and you have the pump covered and on top of that, you would be able to race in any muffler event in the future.
Seems like a no brainer to me.
The chance to ACTUALLY win one of those races is very slim. The competition is very stiff in the bigger events with high $ price money.. My main reason for racing the '68 was the Corvette Challenge.. Now, the RCC is gone and the main purpose with my '68 is to race for fun and Sportsman brackets (maybe I'll go Super Pro depending on how the car reacts when launching off the transbrake). I would like to run 10.0 index races but no such series is anywhere around here. If I'd have a 10.0 index race series that has several races per year, I might consider modifying the car, but just for 1 or 2 races that will require me to travel 2000 miles round-trip, it's not worth to invest that kind of money.
If there would be 5+ 10.0 or 9.0 index races here in Bradenton, I'd modify my car.. but not for 1 or 2 races.. Most of the regulars around here with real race cars use mufflers.. (at least not street mufflers that bring the noise down to 90 db)
I could add some 4 inch glasspacks which would not cost me horsepower, but they would never bring the noise to 90 db
EDIT: Just coming up to ATCO or E-Town would cost me over $500 in gas. My Ford V10 of my truck is thirsty!
Last edited by GrandSportC3; 01-27-2008 at 12:50 AM.
Olivier,
What events will you be able to enter?
Do they even prep the tracks down there for T&T?
I usually run Sportman brackets right now but might switch to Super Pro.
I actually might end up running both, Super Pro and Sportsman once I'll switch the '68 to Super Pro.. I'd run Sportsman with my '92 and Super Pro with my '68.. I just have to get my wife to drive the '92 to the track..
They do prep the track for Test&Tune at Bradenton (1/4 mile) and Sunshine (1/8 mile)
Gainesville also preps the track but not as good as Bradenton..
The best traction in the Southeast for Test&Tune is probably at South Georgia Motorsports Park and Carolina Dragway. Either of those tracks usually dead hooks even though Gainesville's track prep is a little worse than the other mentioned tracks..
Moroso and Orlando are the 2 worst tracks for Test&Tune even though they do prep the track for larger events.
Location: Pettis Performance 565 with two stages of Nitrous Supply nitrous 1.082, 4.61 at 155, 7.17 at 192
Oliver, if you run a bullet race muffler it will work fine with your header evac. There is no restriction with this style muffler. I ran one and it worked fine. I also added the cone inserts into the end of my 4 in. exhaust and it did not cost me any power when I was making around 950-1000 hp. If you want to quiet the car down a bit, bolt some bullet mufflers onto your header collector (might even make more power due to the extension) and then find a 90* elbow the same size as the end of the muffler out let (probably 3.5 to 4 in.) and weld the elbow onto the end of the bullet muffler and point the 90* elbows directly at each other and down towards the ground a little. Believe it or not it seems to cancel the sound out a bit. When you are done put the cone inserts in the end of the elbows. This is what a lot of fast cars around here do, we have to meet 85 decibels Welcome to Kalifornicated.
On a side note; I do not know if your headers point directly at your slicks, but if they do and you grenade a motor.....more than one car has crashed because the oil and water comes through the exhaust and out the headers onto the slicks.
Once again, they do prep for test n tune on wed. nights at Orlando but not on friday nights...friday nights are 98% street cars with street tires who just tear up the track anyway...
With due respect to your muffler requirements up north, putting them on down here is like tits on a bull...Bradenton has a grand total of one event per year that requires mufflers...the one this weekend...OSW has a total of none...Gainesville and Moroso I am not totally sure of but I believe they have a total of none also...
You would have to search high and low to find a track in the four closest states to florida to find even one event that requires mufflers...down here in the south two things are pretty much a certainty...folks are going to own guns and a lot of them and cars at the race track run open pipes...we expect the race tracks to be noisy...
I feel badly about the way they treat you folks up north on the muffler deal but that has nothing to do with us...down here no one expects the race track to sound like the garden state parkway, all quiet and stuff...our race cars don't require mufflers, tags, titles, emissions controls, headlights, interiors or any of that who/ha...they are race cars for goodness sake...
Oliver, if you run a bullet race muffler it will work fine with your header evac. There is no restriction with this style muffler. I ran one and it worked fine. I also added the cone inserts into the end of my 4 in. exhaust and it did not cost me any power when I was making around 950-1000 hp. If you want to quiet the car down a bit, bolt some bullet mufflers onto your header collector (might even make more power due to the extension) and then find a 90* elbow the same size as the end of the muffler out let (probably 3.5 to 4 in.) and weld the elbow onto the end of the bullet muffler and point the 90* elbows directly at each other and down towards the ground a little. Believe it or not it seems to cancel the sound out a bit. When you are done put the cone inserts in the end of the elbows. This is what a lot of fast cars around here do, we have to meet 85 decibels Welcome to Kalifornicated.
On a side note; I do not know if your headers point directly at your slicks, but if they do and you grenade a motor.....more than one car has crashed because the oil and water comes through the exhaust and out the headers onto the slicks.
Does any of those setups bolt on to my 4 inch collector? I don't want to weld anything to the collector as it's removable..
Do you have links to sites that sell those mufflers?
Corvette Store
Went to Orlando Ice World today..
After the guy totaled his car they prepped the track I went a mid 9 later that day.
Welcome to Kalifornicated.
