Decision on next set of tires -- drag vs. street
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Decision on next set of tires -- drag vs. street
I am giving up my quest to hit a sub 2 second 60 on runflats, they win. The question I have, is there a compromise between drag radials and street radials which could provide decent hookup on the track, but be used for everyday driving. The other reason is I drive about 240 miles to and from e-town, and don't have a trailer or equipment to change tires at the track. This way I could race what I drove in on.
I know there is no substitute for absolute bite with drag radials/slicks, but I am worried about strain on the drive train, and (don't laugh) concerend about my skills in doing a 10 second burnout before each pass.
If my first idea is stupid, don't hold back I may just need a good kick in the a$$ to do the right thing. Thanks for listening
I know there is no substitute for absolute bite with drag radials/slicks, but I am worried about strain on the drive train, and (don't laugh) concerend about my skills in doing a 10 second burnout before each pass.
If my first idea is stupid, don't hold back I may just need a good kick in the a$$ to do the right thing. Thanks for listening
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I doubt you'll be happy, at the track, with anything less than a drag radial. My car has had nothing but BFG Drag Radials, on the rear for 6 or 7 years. I have driven 850 miles, one way to a race on the DRs. The equipment to change tires at the track is minimal, a wrench and a jack, but it gets real old, real quick, especially if it's raining. I'd recommend DRs, even if you change them at home before every race.
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
I doubt you'll be happy, at the track, with anything less than a drag radial. My car has had nothing but BFG Drag Radials, on the rear for 6 or 7 years. I have driven 850 miles, one way to a race on the DRs. The equipment to change tires at the track is minimal, a wrench and a jack, but it gets real old, real quick, especially if it's raining. I'd recommend DRs, even if you change them at home before every race.
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All you really need is jack and a lug wrench.
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Originally Posted by Glennm27
Also remember, you CAN fit a pair of D/R's in the rear of a C5 coupe and change at the track.
All you really need is jack and a lug wrench.
All you really need is jack and a lug wrench.
A good compromise(and it is a compromise) is to use Nitto Drag radials. They will last 4 times as long as BFG, but are nowhere near as sticky.
Although many of us don't follow this, BFG recommends not driving more than 25 miles one way.
Give the Nitto's a shot(I can't believe I'm recommending them) and see how it works out, if not go with BFG and get some extra rims and either change them before you come or bring them and do it at the track.
BTW, I have some 17 x 8.5 C5 wagon wheels for sale with some well worn BFG's.
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When I drove to the track I used the Nittos. They worked good when the car was pretty much stock, but not as good once the hp went up. Now that I tow I use the BFGs. I will drive with them to the local track (45 miles) and to E-Town when new (140 miles)
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I"m been doing just what you are thinking of...I put Nitto DR's out back (315-35-17) last March...they stay on the car...they drive fine on the highway at 75 mph...they won't give you those "snappy" short times but they are very consistent...I get 1.89 to 1.92 short times like clockwork...one word of caution..even with the Nitto's, be careful in a rainstorm....the best price I found when I got mine was from Discount Tire....good luck
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Get a set of Nitto DR they will be fine for your situation.
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I appreciate all time and effort in your suggestions and am really looking forward to making a decision and a better showing than this event.
I also realized I neglected to tell you one improtant fact. I normally drive the car back and forth to work daily at 80 miles a day. I just don't like to get out of the seat
Will look into the Nitto 555R (15,000 miles), may be an alternative for installation at home, drive to/from track, race and remove when home. Is there anyone who does something like that or am I just being stubborn?
If that doesn't workout then I don't think I have a choice other than getting a trailer $2K plus (plus the tires/wheels) or a portable kit to change the tires (small jack and battery powered lug gun) at $300 plus the tires/wheels.
I also realized I neglected to tell you one improtant fact. I normally drive the car back and forth to work daily at 80 miles a day. I just don't like to get out of the seat
Will look into the Nitto 555R (15,000 miles), may be an alternative for installation at home, drive to/from track, race and remove when home. Is there anyone who does something like that or am I just being stubborn?
If that doesn't workout then I don't think I have a choice other than getting a trailer $2K plus (plus the tires/wheels) or a portable kit to change the tires (small jack and battery powered lug gun) at $300 plus the tires/wheels.
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Ed as you know I put my on at home the night before and then drive there and back. Either that day or the next I take the tires off. Besides being easier then changing at the track I also get the chance to clean the inside of my wheels. With my low profile jack I can raise the whole backend in one step and remove the tires then put on the DRs in last than 30 mins using a lug wrench. This weekend I went out to look for a battery powered impact wrench which will save me a bit more time...
To be honest I would rather change my tires at the track. I saw that small Aluminum jack that would work if you had the jack pucks in, but then where do you store your tires and jack when you are racing? Seems like they could be easy targets for someone idiot to borrow them forever. That is the main reason I change them at home.
To be honest I would rather change my tires at the track. I saw that small Aluminum jack that would work if you had the jack pucks in, but then where do you store your tires and jack when you are racing? Seems like they could be easy targets for someone idiot to borrow them forever. That is the main reason I change them at home.
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Yup if you don't want to the weekly swap of wheels/tires then the Nitto will be the wiser choice.....EXCEPT....if you really plan to do a lot of drag racing.
For occasional racing the Nitto is okay. I had them for a while and found them to be not very consistent so out they went.
If you plan to race 10 or more times and more importantly, bracket race, you need to be thinking about BFG and MT ET Street Radial.
I would not want to see you get Nittos and a couple races later, sell them at a loss for something else.
If you really do not want to swap at the track and can deal with the Nitto, get them. I am getting the feeling you will will be at the track quite a bit and you will start modding soon too
For occasional racing the Nitto is okay. I had them for a while and found them to be not very consistent so out they went.
If you plan to race 10 or more times and more importantly, bracket race, you need to be thinking about BFG and MT ET Street Radial.
I would not want to see you get Nittos and a couple races later, sell them at a loss for something else.
If you really do not want to swap at the track and can deal with the Nitto, get them. I am getting the feeling you will will be at the track quite a bit and you will start modding soon too
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I've always thought that RP should build and sell or rent garage condos or small storage units so that folks could leave their equipment and/or cars at the track. Especially all you city folk, it's gotta be tough storing your car and everything that goes with it.
Maybe I should buy some land and build a Corvette Challenge headquarters. Now that's a plan.
Maybe I should buy some land and build a Corvette Challenge headquarters. Now that's a plan.
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[Mr Mojo]I've always thought that RP should build and sell or rent garage condos or small storage units so that folks could leave their equipment and/or cars at the track. Especially all you city folk, it's gotta be tough storing your car and everything that goes with it.
Maybe I should buy some land and build a Corvette Challenge headquarters. Now that's a plan. [/QUOTE]
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small storage units .......... Now that's a plan.
And a very good one
[Mr Mojo]I've always thought that RP should build and sell or rent garage condos or small storage units so that folks could leave their equipment and/or cars at the track. Especially all you city folk, it's gotta be tough storing your car and everything that goes with it.
Maybe I should buy some land and build a Corvette Challenge headquarters. Now that's a plan. [/QUOTE]
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small storage units .......... Now that's a plan.
And a very good one
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
I've always thought that RP should build and sell or rent garage condos or small storage units so that folks could leave their equipment and/or cars at the track:
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now thats my point. Many of us want to do the change there, but have no storage area. If they had a small garage I am sure that a bunch of us could chip in together and have a jack and lug wrench there then you just store tires.
Of course RP would be responsible if someone broke in so maybe they dont want that added problem. Though I doubt their insurance owuld go any higher....
Of course RP would be responsible if someone broke in so maybe they dont want that added problem. Though I doubt their insurance owuld go any higher....
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The insurance and taxes would be the biggest factor(other than securing the property in the first place).
A couple years ago I found a building in Jackson for an unbelievable price. 9000 sq ft for $6900 on 1 acre. Taxes were $11,000/yr.
That's a litte over $900/month, but split it between a dozen guys and it's less than $80. Too bad I can't find the listing, it's probably long gone by now.
A couple years ago I found a building in Jackson for an unbelievable price. 9000 sq ft for $6900 on 1 acre. Taxes were $11,000/yr.
That's a litte over $900/month, but split it between a dozen guys and it's less than $80. Too bad I can't find the listing, it's probably long gone by now.
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The insurance and taxes would be the biggest factor(other than securing the property in the first place).
A couple years ago I found a building in Jackson for an unbelievable price. 9000 sq ft for $6900 on 1 acre. Taxes were $11,000/yr.
That's a litte over $900/month, but split it between a dozen guys and it's less than $80. Too bad I can't find the listing, it's probably long gone by now.
A couple years ago I found a building in Jackson for an unbelievable price. 9000 sq ft for $6900 on 1 acre. Taxes were $11,000/yr.
That's a litte over $900/month, but split it between a dozen guys and it's less than $80. Too bad I can't find the listing, it's probably long gone by now.
ALL real estate was a lot cheaper a few years ago!! It's probably gone, but today I'm sure it would sell for triple that at least.
I chain my wheels/tires & jack around a pole at the track....
Ron
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ALL real estate was a lot cheaper a few years ago!! It's probably gone, but today I'm sure it would sell for triple that at least.
I chain my wheels/tires & jack around a pole at the track....
Ron
I chain my wheels/tires & jack around a pole at the track....
Ron
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
I've always thought that RP should build and sell or rent garage condos or small storage units so that folks could leave their equipment and/or cars at the track. Especially all you city folk, it's gotta be tough storing your car and everything that goes with it.
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Believe it or not that plan has been in the works for over 3 years, but as always there is trouble with the city/neighbors.
Mike Napp told me said they would be different sizes at different cost depending on size and would be on the site that is now the lake since that is hardly ever used anymore.
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I guess for the racing season you could rent a small 5X5 storage place and split the costs. The problem would be the Storage facility probibly wouldn't appreciate a line of cars and work being done in their facility. Would have to clear that with them.
I have heard some people chain there daily set to the fence during their sessions. I guess if you had a lock box which would hold an impact gun, lug wrench, jack etc. you could chain lock all the items together. But that is a pain in the neck as well.
Maybe Edgar could speak with RP to see what they may think. Gee, never thought my problem with tires would evolve into this, but its good.
I have heard some people chain there daily set to the fence during their sessions. I guess if you had a lock box which would hold an impact gun, lug wrench, jack etc. you could chain lock all the items together. But that is a pain in the neck as well.
Maybe Edgar could speak with RP to see what they may think. Gee, never thought my problem with tires would evolve into this, but its good.
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Another solution. We drove to Memphis with this setup.
As for the city/neighbors, can you believe the black hats in Lakewood are making the township move their public works? The public works was there long before the condos, but now Lakewood has to spend 23,000,000 on a new public works facility. My tax dollars at work.
As for the city/neighbors, can you believe the black hats in Lakewood are making the township move their public works? The public works was there long before the condos, but now Lakewood has to spend 23,000,000 on a new public works facility. My tax dollars at work.