New to HPDE
#1
New to HPDE
Ok so I'm going to my first HPDE at Texas World Speedway in March And I'm looking for advice. Car is a C5Z that is basic bolt ons and a stage 3 clutch. I have no illusion that I'm going to outdrive my car Is it worth it to go ahead and buy a pad like the Hawks blue or will a stock pad work? I'm changing out my fluid to Motul 600 and new Napa blank rotors already.
#2
Drifting
You might want to get the new pads. TWS has a nice long straight and you will not be able to help yourself...you will push it on the straight. As such, you'll need something to get the car slowed. The rest of the track is pretty easy on brakes. With new pads and rotors, make sure you bed them properly.
I'll be there as well and I also have a C5 Z06 with stock LS6. I'm going on close to 2 years doing this and I still can't out drive the car. You'll realize quickly that the first thing you'll want to sink your money into is seat time, safety and brakes. That alone can chew up a chunk of cash very quickly and on a regular basis.
Jay
I'll be there as well and I also have a C5 Z06 with stock LS6. I'm going on close to 2 years doing this and I still can't out drive the car. You'll realize quickly that the first thing you'll want to sink your money into is seat time, safety and brakes. That alone can chew up a chunk of cash very quickly and on a regular basis.
Jay
Last edited by crease-guard; 01-17-2013 at 05:45 PM.
#3
Burning Brakes
I think you're going to find out that the consensus of the guys and gals on this forum will be that you should not do any performance mods until you learn to drive the cat at the next level. You should prepare the car for the rigors of HPDE: good pads, fresh brake fluid (DOT 4), clean the radiator, good street tires (decent tread and not rock hard w/age). The rest of mods are all for the driver: listen, learn, and look ahead.
Welcome to the affliction - enjoy!!!!
Welcome to the affliction - enjoy!!!!
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Safety Car
If you like it............. the first thing to get is cooling ducts & spindle holders for front brake cooling. they will more than pay for themselves in pads and rotors not to mention the feeling of knowing your brakes are good
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You should look for cooling ducts and go with a propper pad. You should use Carbotech XP10 front and Carbotech XP8 rear. I will be happy to help you give me a call at 216-780-8825.
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If you're running with the stock seat, you should look into a set of Angel Pads. They'll keep you planted in the seat through the high-g corners. No need for knee pads.
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A lot of good suggestions here. Since it is your first HPDE, get the better track pads and be sure to break them in with your new rotors before you get to the track. There should be instructions with the pads. Don't worry about doing too much more at this point. You won't like the stock seat as you progress with more events but you will be just fine for now. Your arms may get a little tired as you hold yourself in the seat with the steering wheel but no big deal really. Use the cinch up ratchet on the belt system. The classroom will cover track basics and the instructor on track will show you all you will need to know to be safe, fast and have fun. If there were to be only one instruction for the whole day it would be LOOK FAR AHEAD ...... ALWAYS.
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I'll be there too. It will be my first HPDE in my new to me C5Z. So far I've put on SS brake lines, put in Motul 600, and will put new pads and rotors on before as well. Also got some Angel Pads for X-mas, can't wait to try them out! Hope to see you there.
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A lot of good suggestions here. Since it is your first HPDE, get the better track pads and be sure to break them in with your new rotors before you get to the track. There should be instructions with the pads. Don't worry about doing too much more at this point. You won't like the stock seat as you progress with more events but you will be just fine for now. Your arms may get a little tired as you hold yourself in the seat with the steering wheel but no big deal really. Use the cinch up ratchet on the belt system. The classroom will cover track basics and the instructor on track will show you all you will need to know to be safe, fast and have fun. If there were to be only one instruction for the whole day it would be LOOK FAR AHEAD ...... ALWAYS.
A pad that covers the left knee will help with protecting the outside of your knee from the speaker grille.
Bill
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Safety Car
Make sure you talk to the people at Carbotech. They have a variety of pads and they can help you select the one that's appropriate for you. Don't just buy online.
You can also ask them about the best brake fluid for your situation.
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You can also ask them about the best brake fluid for your situation.
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My list for now would be:
Brake pads (such as carbotech xp10/xp8 setup, but that depends on your tires)
Motul 600 brake fluid and rotors, which you are already doing.
I use Angel Pads and they work great. I'd be hesitant to invest in these when it is only your first HPDE. If you get the bug and think you will go regularly, they are worth the investment.
Bill and SouthernSon also give very good suggestions.
Make sure this is for you before you plow money in to your car. Brakes and safety first. Everything else comes later.
Your instructor will look for control, then consistency. Cadence comes with time and practice. Have fun and welcome to the addiction!
Brake pads (such as carbotech xp10/xp8 setup, but that depends on your tires)
Motul 600 brake fluid and rotors, which you are already doing.
I use Angel Pads and they work great. I'd be hesitant to invest in these when it is only your first HPDE. If you get the bug and think you will go regularly, they are worth the investment.
Bill and SouthernSon also give very good suggestions.
Make sure this is for you before you plow money in to your car. Brakes and safety first. Everything else comes later.
Your instructor will look for control, then consistency. Cadence comes with time and practice. Have fun and welcome to the addiction!
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Drifting
suggestions
Replace the brake fluid. good flush. For the first time or two, a good brand, but just fresh is probably OK.
Make sure your tires are not too old.
Better brake pads, something like HAWK HP+ are Ok to start.
Get a comfortable helmet. Some brands are better for round heads some better for flatter heads.
Wear cotton clothes.
Get some GRIP-IT shelf liner it is the perforated rubbery shelf liner stuff. put a 18" square piece on your seat and sit on it. You will be amazed how well you stick in the seat. A cheap ($3) race seat alternative that will keep you from sliding around.
Ears switched on, mouth switched off.
Learn passing zones and protocol and be generous with point bys. You will earn more friends that way.
Make sure your tires are not too old.
Better brake pads, something like HAWK HP+ are Ok to start.
Get a comfortable helmet. Some brands are better for round heads some better for flatter heads.
Wear cotton clothes.
Get some GRIP-IT shelf liner it is the perforated rubbery shelf liner stuff. put a 18" square piece on your seat and sit on it. You will be amazed how well you stick in the seat. A cheap ($3) race seat alternative that will keep you from sliding around.
Ears switched on, mouth switched off.
Learn passing zones and protocol and be generous with point bys. You will earn more friends that way.
#15
Drifting
Don't put those new rotors on right before the event. Put them on now and drive them on the street for a bit to put them through some heat cycles. Or better yet, if your current rotors are not showing any wear, leave them on and just change the pads. Rotors need to be seasoned, they need to be broken in. Going straight from a box to a track event will shock them and they'll either crack or just won't last very long after that. Being your first event you may not push them very hard anyway. Of course I've never been to that track and a post above indicated a long straight that will likely task your brakes.