Switching FRT Pads Left to Right Side
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Switching FRT Pads Left to Right Side
Im putting track pads on for Sat Pocono event. My left inner pad wears the most, say 1.5mm faster. I want to switch L and R. That little warning tab hits the caliper when it is on the bottom of caliper. Can I nip that of, being it is only for warning brakes are low?
Thanks, David
Thanks, David
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You can swap the pads no problem. As long as your pads are thick enough for use, there is no problem with cutting the wear indicator off for clearance with the caliper.
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They are DTC 70 with 6/32. Just for the track. I am switching L to R because inner pad wore the fastest. The slide pins are lubed.
#6
You definitely want some pad material out there so it can soak up some heat. If you are going to run pads down to 1.5mm, I personally would put them on the rear. I hardly wear rear pads at all. The more pad material you have, the longer the heat has to travel before it gets to the brake fluid; just something else to think about.
You make any more upgrades since memorial day weekend and whats up with George and Bob, they coming or what?
You make any more upgrades since memorial day weekend and whats up with George and Bob, they coming or what?
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You definitely want some pad material out there so it can soak up some heat. If you are going to run pads down to 1.5mm, I personally would put them on the rear. I hardly wear rear pads at all. The more pad material you have, the longer the heat has to travel before it gets to the brake fluid; just something else to think about.
You make any more upgrades since memorial day weekend and whats up with George and Bob, they coming or what?
You make any more upgrades since memorial day weekend and whats up with George and Bob, they coming or what?
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Sucks for them I guess. I got a decent alignment now so I may be able to give them a better fight through the infield and a GM full length spoiler to go flat out through the banked turn
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ahh thats right, I forgot you aren't running a Z06. Completely slipped my mind; of course you couldn't flip front to rear. By all means, if you have the pad depth to get through the event then go ahead and flip em.
Sucks for them I guess. I got a decent alignment now so I may be able to give them a better fight through the infield and a GM full length spoiler to go flat out through the banked turn
Sucks for them I guess. I got a decent alignment now so I may be able to give them a better fight through the infield and a GM full length spoiler to go flat out through the banked turn
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The car has more in it. Peter showed me that when he ran away from me like that in the ZR1. The Hoosiers probably had something to do with it as well. Bob kinda drug me along after I gave him a point and that showed me the car was capable of so much more. It appears I'm on a quest to find the limits. I just hope it doesn't end picking my car up with a shovel.
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The car has more in it. Peter showed me that when he ran away from me like that in the ZR1. The Hoosiers probably had something to do with it as well. Bob kinda drug me along after I gave him a point and that showed me the car was capable of so much more. It appears I'm on a quest to find the limits. I just hope it doesn't end picking my car up with a shovel.
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I seem to wear my left side faster than the right, but I think this is track specific. That outside wheel is doing the heavy braking in right turns. I constantly swap pads, and if they wear crooked, make sure you put the fat side down to even them up.
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Are you swapping pads from one side of the car to another or just swapping in the caliper? You should swap from driver side to passenger side and keep the pads in the same orientation they were in on the other side. In 8 years of C5 ownership before going to aftermarket brakes on the front I never had an issue with the wear sensor hitting the caliper no matter how I mounted the pads.
Bill
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Buy track pads...no wear sensor...problem solved
To Bill's comment about swapping pads...simply flipping them within the same caliper is pretty much useless as the pads will continue to taper in the same direction. Take the pads in the left caliper and swap them with the pads in the right caliper. Be sure this is the end result:
Left outboard pad becomes Right inboard pad
Left inboard pad becomes Right outboard pad
Right outboard pad becomes Left inboard pad
Right inboard pad becomes Left outboard pad
To Bill's comment about swapping pads...simply flipping them within the same caliper is pretty much useless as the pads will continue to taper in the same direction. Take the pads in the left caliper and swap them with the pads in the right caliper. Be sure this is the end result:
Left outboard pad becomes Right inboard pad
Left inboard pad becomes Right outboard pad
Right outboard pad becomes Left inboard pad
Right inboard pad becomes Left outboard pad
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Buy track pads...no wear sensor...problem solved
To Bill's comment about swapping pads...simply flipping them within the same caliper is pretty much useless as the pads will continue to taper in the same direction. Take the pads in the left caliper and swap them with the pads in the right caliper. Be sure this is the end result:
Left outboard pad becomes Right inboard pad
Left inboard pad becomes Right outboard pad
Right outboard pad becomes Left inboard pad
Right inboard pad becomes Left outboard pad
To Bill's comment about swapping pads...simply flipping them within the same caliper is pretty much useless as the pads will continue to taper in the same direction. Take the pads in the left caliper and swap them with the pads in the right caliper. Be sure this is the end result:
Left outboard pad becomes Right inboard pad
Left inboard pad becomes Right outboard pad
Right outboard pad becomes Left inboard pad
Right inboard pad becomes Left outboard pad
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Looks like we will need a tie breaker
The motivation for flipping the pads as I do is that the natural flex in our braking systems is the cause of longitudinal taper (leading to trailing edge) of the pad. So, as the knuckle/bracket/caliper flex under hard braking, the observed taper of the outboard pad and the inboard pad on the same caliper is such that the outboard taper is the opposite of the inboard taper. So, if flipping within the same caliper you effectively take the thick end of the inboard pad and put it where the thick end of the outboard pad was ... kind of useless if the goal of the swap was to balance longitudinal taper over the lifespan of your pads.
This is 100% based on my experience with an AP BBK, your mileage may vary.
The motivation for flipping the pads as I do is that the natural flex in our braking systems is the cause of longitudinal taper (leading to trailing edge) of the pad. So, as the knuckle/bracket/caliper flex under hard braking, the observed taper of the outboard pad and the inboard pad on the same caliper is such that the outboard taper is the opposite of the inboard taper. So, if flipping within the same caliper you effectively take the thick end of the inboard pad and put it where the thick end of the outboard pad was ... kind of useless if the goal of the swap was to balance longitudinal taper over the lifespan of your pads.
This is 100% based on my experience with an AP BBK, your mileage may vary.
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Well I can tell you that on a PBR 2 piston C5 caliper(at least mine) that the longitudinal taper is symmetrical between the inboard and outboard pads, the greatest wear on the leading edge. The inboard pad is always substantially more wore than the outside.
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Swapping to the other side of the car compensated by wearing down the thicker parts first. If I just flipped them inside the caliper the taper just got worse.
Bill
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Buy track pads...no wear sensor...problem solved
To Bill's comment about swapping pads...simply flipping them within the same caliper is pretty much useless as the pads will continue to taper in the same direction. Take the pads in the left caliper and swap them with the pads in the right caliper. Be sure this is the end result:
Left outboard pad becomes Right inboard pad
Left inboard pad becomes Right outboard pad
Right outboard pad becomes Left inboard pad
Right inboard pad becomes Left outboard pad
To Bill's comment about swapping pads...simply flipping them within the same caliper is pretty much useless as the pads will continue to taper in the same direction. Take the pads in the left caliper and swap them with the pads in the right caliper. Be sure this is the end result:
Left outboard pad becomes Right inboard pad
Left inboard pad becomes Right outboard pad
Right outboard pad becomes Left inboard pad
Right inboard pad becomes Left outboard pad