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Old 05-06-2012, 11:22 AM
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I installed DRM's brake ducts recently.

I then noticed a problem (which I may have created myself) with them after a track day recently.

Where the plastic duct terminates the hose slips on it and is attached with a large radiator hose clamp. The problem is that when the clamp was tightened a lot, it collapsed the plastic duct and the hose slipped off.

I didn't notice this until the wheel was removed. At that point, though, the ducts haven't helped at all for brake cooling, but they have dumped a lot of air into the wheel well.

So, I thought about it a bit and came to a simple solution. (No, I didn't take the ducts off!). I bought a 3" PVC coupler, cut a 3/4" band off of it. Then I cut a 1/2" section out of the ring so that it could compress some. I slid this inside the plastic duct opening, and when it sprung open it fit the opening perfectly with the ends of the band butting against each other for compression strength.

I siliconed that in place, put the hose back on the plastic duct opening, and now I can put as much clamping force on the hose clamp as needed and I know it won't come off.

Here's what the duct opening looks like: (I had already inserted the band in it before I took the picture)



A close up:



Here it is reassembled:



Here's the sacrificial coupling:



It's amazing how much air these things flow. I put a leaf blower up to the bumper opening and a hurricane was going into the rotor.
Old 05-06-2012, 11:34 AM
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Very nice redneck engineering. I want to someday build a house out of PVC.
Old 05-06-2012, 11:37 AM
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Great solution. The price was right too.

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Old 05-06-2012, 12:04 PM
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Jody,

Will the silicone hold better than adding one or two screws to hold the compression ring in the DRM duct? As your competitor, it’s not that I don't want you to have cooler brakes. I just don’t want to eat the parts if they come off while I am behind you!

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Cool. I have the same kit. I'd also be interested in knowing if you're using a backing plate to keep the hosing off the rotors. Mine just sits on the rotors at the end and I don't think it's as effective.
Old 05-06-2012, 12:21 PM
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You could have just punched holes through and zip tied it. Holds great.
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Jody,

Will the silicone hold better than adding one or two screws to hold the compression ring in the DRM duct? As your competitor, it’s not that I don't want you to have cooler brakes. I just don’t want to eat the parts if they come off while I am behind you!

Ed
Ed, I know you have my best interests at heart.

I thought about screws but if they came out someone is getting a flat. Once the insert is in and clamped down the chance of it it coming loose is small.
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Cool. I have the same kit. I'd also be interested in knowing if you're using a backing plate to keep the hosing off the rotors. Mine just sits on the rotors at the end and I don't think it's as effective.
I had a guy build me a set of ducts that attach to the spindle and put air into the center of the rotor. That duct exits right next to the rotor.
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You could have just punched holes through and zip tied it. Holds great.
Yep, that'd work, too.
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Looks good Jody.

I bought my ducts used and they were already collapsed from someone (not naming names Khoi) using clamps like you said. My only choice was to use screws so I did. I was concerned about them coming out too so I wrapped the whole thing with a small strip of duct tape just to be safe (no clamp). Going on 2 yrs now with no issues.
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What are these brakes you speak of
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Very nice redneck engineering. I want to someday build a house out of PVC.
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taper the edge in the direction the air comes in. 5 minutes with a round round file does it.

I had a set and after the event the air blew in from the brakes on one side back into the plastic duct and the front 1/4 of the duct collapsed and was so severely deformed to the point of junk. Be careful how you park.

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:01 PM
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Good work Jody... now I'm going to copy your engineering and do that to my brake ducts I noticed mine were collapsed as well after the wreck and need to be fixed up.

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