time for delrin bushings - pic
04-28-2012, 05:41 PM
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Drifting
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time for delrin bushings - pic
this is the only one bad so far.
how bad is it?
can i do watkins glen monday with it? on scrub r6's, first time there, so won't be killing it.
how bad is it?
can i do watkins glen monday with it? on scrub r6's, first time there, so won't be killing it.
04-28-2012, 06:08 PM
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04-28-2012, 06:08 PM
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Wouldn't stop me from going. I've done many track days with similar looking bushes...as have many others here I imagine. A set of new T1 control arms i installed looked similar that after only one weekend.
04-30-2012, 08:54 PM
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I ran an event with similar looking bushings on both sides of the front. It is time to put poly or delrin bushings on the near term TO DO list. You will really like the difference after you make the switch.
05-03-2012, 10:35 AM
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how is delrin on the street?
delrin or poly for a 50% street, 50% time trial car?
delrin or poly for a 50% street, 50% time trial car?
05-03-2012, 01:46 PM
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Yes it is... A good buddy of mine informed me of the properties/characteristics of the Delrin vs. Solid Spherical. I hope that I can explain this as well as he did to me.
The properties of the Delrin bushings vs. the Spherical's on how they drive on the street are about the same. They will both transmit a lot of road noise. The Delrin bushings are good, but if you are giving up the drive-ability of the vehicle I would go with the solid sphericals.
The Delrin's will eventually wear-down and allow for more deflection, they will need to be replaced. The Spherical's will also wear-down and ultimately when they need replacement you will see the teflon coating starts pushing otu from the bearing. However, the bearings are only $15 for uppers and $40 for lowers, so the service is a lot cheaper than replacing an entire set of Delrin's. The delrin style also will not articulate as freely as a Spherical set would either, thus more friction and more wear down the road to replacement.
For a street car that sees the track, I would go with the Pfadt Poly set. If it is a dedicated track car my vote is with the Pfadt Spherical's!
The properties of the Delrin bushings vs. the Spherical's on how they drive on the street are about the same. They will both transmit a lot of road noise. The Delrin bushings are good, but if you are giving up the drive-ability of the vehicle I would go with the solid sphericals.
The Delrin's will eventually wear-down and allow for more deflection, they will need to be replaced. The Spherical's will also wear-down and ultimately when they need replacement you will see the teflon coating starts pushing otu from the bearing. However, the bearings are only $15 for uppers and $40 for lowers, so the service is a lot cheaper than replacing an entire set of Delrin's. The delrin style also will not articulate as freely as a Spherical set would either, thus more friction and more wear down the road to replacement.
For a street car that sees the track, I would go with the Pfadt Poly set. If it is a dedicated track car my vote is with the Pfadt Spherical's!
05-03-2012, 04:07 PM
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Thanks for the recommendations guys! As far as street and track cars are concerned poly is a more forgiving material than delrin, and doesn't require custom machining to implement properly without binding which makes installation much easier for the garage mechanic. That being said it's still quite a bit of work installing a complete poly control arm kit since you still need to completely disassemble each control arm, press out the old rubber bushing and install the new poly bushing.
OP: Since your profile mentions you're in New York, if you're local to ECS they have a ton of experience with both our parts and specifically with these control arm kits. We have no doubt they would be able to take care of any installation needs.
05-03-2012, 04:51 PM
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That front upper doesn't look like it's in the best shape. They definitely do take the brunt of the braking forces and seeing a bushing pressed out like this isn't entirely uncommon. Like CHJ In Virginia mentioned, I would move it to the top of my issues To Address Soon list.
Thanks for the recommendations guys! As far as street and track cars are concerned poly is a more forgiving material than delrin, and doesn't require custom machining to implement properly without binding which makes installation much easier for the garage mechanic. That being said it's still quite a bit of work installing a complete poly control arm kit since you still need to completely disassemble each control arm, press out the old rubber bushing and install the new poly bushing.
Thanks for the recommendations guys! As far as street and track cars are concerned poly is a more forgiving material than delrin, and doesn't require custom machining to implement properly without binding which makes installation much easier for the garage mechanic. That being said it's still quite a bit of work installing a complete poly control arm kit since you still need to completely disassemble each control arm, press out the old rubber bushing and install the new poly bushing.
OP: Since your profile mentions you're in New York, if you're local to ECS they have a ton of experience with both our parts and specifically with these control arm kits. We have no doubt they would be able to take care of any installation needs.
