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Old 11-07-2011, 08:43 PM
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is there a decent 4-6 point cage that bolts in while keeping the car in tact?

not looking to meet any rules, just more safety for some random track events and the street
Old 11-07-2011, 08:48 PM
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Short answer: Nope.

Long answer:
Nope.
Yeahbut...
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Yeahbut...
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Yeabut...
It's your money, spend it trying and be disappointed.
Old 11-07-2011, 08:58 PM
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A track mate of mine installed the Autopower and feels pretty good about it. I bought one on that basis but haven't gotten around to installing it. A local shop who installs a lot of the corvette cages in these parts took a look at it and says its a nice piece for a bolt-in. IDK but it may be OK for your purposes.

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Old 11-07-2011, 09:17 PM
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No... and if your tall No^2
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im 6'5
Old 11-07-2011, 09:23 PM
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Yeah then not a chance... I'm 6'4" and took the roof off my car and cut out the factory b-pillar "roll bar" when doing my cage. Only way I can fit in a caged C5 properly.
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guess i better just never wreck
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C5s are robust and fare well in rollovers. The main issue in road racing is a side impact where only a full cage will help you.
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My advice for added safety that allows you to maintain your interior is a harness bar and swap in a good seat and 6pts w/HANS when you go to the track.
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especially if you are tall, going with a local builder is the only way to go. Honestly though, the C5 has amazing roll over protection, and the only thing a cage gets you is side impact protection. And living with door bars doesn't really sound like what you are looking for.

Kirk and Autopower make decent stuff, but they will leave you likely banging and tilting your head any time you have a helmet on.

btw, I like the Pfadt design that moves the main hoop back behind the halo, up into the back glass area. I wish they would lose the quick fasteners and make it competition ready though (unless they have and I missed it)
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and you mention safety for random track events and the street. I dont think a cage is recommended for the street. unless you plan to wear a helmet.
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Originally Posted by RDnomorecobra
and you mention safety for random track events and the street. I dont think a cage is recommended for the street. unless you plan to wear a helmet.
As indicated in the post above, cages are not safe for the street. Driver and passenger are subject to hitting there head on the cage. In the event of an accident, the safety gained from outside impacts creates inside inpacts with the cage.
Old 11-08-2011, 10:21 AM
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Here is the Pfadt c5 harness bar the top bar is back away from you head. I thought it was great for trackdays and local TT stuff. Having a 5 point harness in the car will also make a huge difference, this car is getting a race cage over the winter.


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Old 11-08-2011, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason
My advice for added safety that allows you to maintain your interior is a harness bar and swap in a good seat and 6pts w/HANS when you go to the track.
Old 11-08-2011, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason
My advice for added safety that allows you to maintain your interior is a harness bar and swap in a good seat and 6pts w/HANS when you go to the track.
I did this for a few years and it worked well.
I still have the Hardbar Harness bar and hardware that I removed when I stripped the car and went W2W. PM me if you want to buy it. I'll make you a good deal
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Hardbar is the way to go. However, if you're tall and need the stock seats all the way back you'll want to get Gary's extender adapters to move the bar back.
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Hardbar is the way to go. However, if you're tall and need the stock seats all the way back you'll want to get Gary's extender adapters to move the bar back.

I have hardbar extenders that I did not use. If interested, I will make you a great deal. PM me.

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Originally Posted by Jason
My advice for added safety that allows you to maintain your interior is a harness bar and swap in a good seat and 6pts w/HANS when you go to the track.

This is my setup and it works well. I'm short but I have the Hardbar extenders set up at a downward angle to lower the height of the bar and gain a better angle for the shoulder belt.
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Our Chassis bar is a great way to safely mount a harness or camera and to add some stiffness to the rear hatch area. It tucks about as far back as possible so it doesn't encroach into rear hatch visibility or head room. It's fastened to the car via the provided Riv Nuts, but you could always weld the bar into place if you wanted too. Because this is a street oriented piece we wanted to give our customers the option of removing the chassis bar if they ever did sell the car.

The unique main hoop placement of our chassis bar would make it extremely difficult for your head to come in contact with the bar, which is why we have no qualms having these installed in street cars. As has been mentioned earlier in the thread it's just not a good idea to install a full cage in a street car unless yourself and all passengers are willing to ride around in helmets to the grocery store.

Side note, we actually did manufacture a full on weld in roll cage but only had handful were ever actually sold. We found that most cage fabricators would much rather design and fabricate their own cages than purchase a quality premade kit from another company that only involves a quick weld in.


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Can you add a 5 pt harness with the pfadt bolt in cage with stock sport seats?


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