Which one: Motul RBF600 or ATE Super Blue?
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Considering I usually end up braking (no pun intended) a line loose for one reason or the other, I forgo the most expensive and now just use the ATE 200. So no matter if I need to bleed the lines regularly, it is cheap enough. Works great for me.
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Look at the boiling points, that is important for the track. For the price, Motul RBF600 has higher boiling points then the SuperBlue
BRAKE FLUID COMPARISON CHART
Brand Wet Boiling Point Dry Boiling Point
Castrol SRF 518°F 590°F
Motul RBF600 420°F 593°F
AP-600 410°F 572°F
ATE-Super Blue 392°F 536°F
Valvoline 333°F 513°F
Castrol LMA 311°F 446°F
Ford HD 290°F 550°F
Wilwood 570 284°F 570°F
PFC-Z rated 284°F 550°F
AP-550 284°F 550°F
BRAKE FLUID COMPARISON CHART
Brand Wet Boiling Point Dry Boiling Point
Castrol SRF 518°F 590°F
Motul RBF600 420°F 593°F
AP-600 410°F 572°F
ATE-Super Blue 392°F 536°F
Valvoline 333°F 513°F
Castrol LMA 311°F 446°F
Ford HD 290°F 550°F
Wilwood 570 284°F 570°F
PFC-Z rated 284°F 550°F
AP-550 284°F 550°F
#8
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I ran the ATE Super Blue fluid in my C5. It worked great but it does stain the brake fluid reservoir as mentioned above. You also have to always explain to the tech inspectors why your fluid looks dark. I run the Motul RBF600 fluid in my C6 and it also works great and doesn't have any of the drawbacks of the Super Blue fluid.
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I have run the ATE Blue for the last 4 years without a problem. I have cooling ducts and have never boiled the fluid at a track day. For street and HPDE use, the ATE would be my recommendation based on performance and cost. I am paying about $10 a quart for the ATE and the Motul is a LOT more expensive. If you were running wheel to wheel, then I would recommend the extra temp protection of the Motul.
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I haven't seen this yet after 2 years of using ATE Super Blue in my 87. ATE TYP200 is a gold color and has exactly the same properties as Super Blue. If you swap between the two fluids when doing a flush, the staining should never appear.
ATE is a good street/auto-x/track day fluid and is relatively inexpensive and still comes in metal cans with a top that seals very well.
ATE is a good street/auto-x/track day fluid and is relatively inexpensive and still comes in metal cans with a top that seals very well.
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BRAKE FLUID COMPARISON CHART
Brand Wet Boiling Point Dry Boiling Point
Ferodo 1/2L 399*F 626*F $39.99
Castrol SRF L 518°F 590°F $68.95
ProSpeed 683 1/2L 439*F 683*F $39.99 MTI
Motul RBF600 1/2L 420°F 593°F $14.95
Motul RBF660 1/2L 401*F 617*F $28.95
AP-600 1/2L 410°F 572°F $19.95
ATE-Super Blue L 392°F 536°F $15.99
Valvoline 333°F 513°F
Castrol LMA 311°F 446°F
Ford HD 290°F 550°F
Wilwood 570 284°F 570°F
PFC-Z rated 284°F 550°F
AP-550 284°F 550°F
PFC 660 1/2L 383°F 617°F $39.95
Where do you get it for $10? $14 is the cheapest I have found. Doing my winter flush.
Brand Wet Boiling Point Dry Boiling Point
Ferodo 1/2L 399*F 626*F $39.99
Castrol SRF L 518°F 590°F $68.95
ProSpeed 683 1/2L 439*F 683*F $39.99 MTI
Motul RBF600 1/2L 420°F 593°F $14.95
Motul RBF660 1/2L 401*F 617*F $28.95
AP-600 1/2L 410°F 572°F $19.95
ATE-Super Blue L 392°F 536°F $15.99
Valvoline 333°F 513°F
Castrol LMA 311°F 446°F
Ford HD 290°F 550°F
Wilwood 570 284°F 570°F
PFC-Z rated 284°F 550°F
AP-550 284°F 550°F
PFC 660 1/2L 383°F 617°F $39.95
Where do you get it for $10? $14 is the cheapest I have found. Doing my winter flush.
Last edited by waddisme; 06-26-2012 at 10:03 AM.
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http://www.apexperformance.net/cartg...t.asp?scat=397
http://www.raceshopper.com/ate_brake_fluid.shtml ($12!!)
If there is a CarQuest auto parts store near you, they can get it. 23 stores in a 100 mile radius of Atlanta. Go here and enter your ZIP code and select the Distance value.
Last edited by c4cruiser; 12-26-2010 at 10:30 AM.
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I use the ATE-200 (clear version) in my son's Spec Miata and I am going to probably use the same in the Vette. It will be easier and cheaper to run the same in both cars. Since I am a newbie at HPDE I am sure it will be just fine.
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Look at the boiling points, that is important for the track. For the price, Motul RBF600 has higher boiling points then the SuperBlue
BRAKE FLUID COMPARISON CHART
Brand Wet Boiling Point Dry Boiling Point
Castrol SRF 518°F 590°F
Motul RBF600 420°F 593°F
AP-600 410°F 572°F
ATE-Super Blue 392°F 536°F
Valvoline 333°F 513°F
Castrol LMA 311°F 446°F
Ford HD 290°F 550°F
Wilwood 570 284°F 570°F
PFC-Z rated 284°F 550°F
AP-550 284°F 550°F
BRAKE FLUID COMPARISON CHART
Brand Wet Boiling Point Dry Boiling Point
Castrol SRF 518°F 590°F
Motul RBF600 420°F 593°F
AP-600 410°F 572°F
ATE-Super Blue 392°F 536°F
Valvoline 333°F 513°F
Castrol LMA 311°F 446°F
Ford HD 290°F 550°F
Wilwood 570 284°F 570°F
PFC-Z rated 284°F 550°F
AP-550 284°F 550°F
nothing beats Castrol SRF
#18
If you run your car hard at the track then you will need a high temp fluid...not sure it matters if your not scrubbing off 100 to 70 mph to turn right and left...rinse and repeat for4 20 minutes.
That said, I've used both Motul and ATE (Blue and Amber) and they do the job very well. (I like to alternate the Blue to make bleeding easier)
I'm all for saving $ but the diff between $10, $12, $14 for brake fluid when your spending $1600 on tires, $600 on pads, $150 fuel, $300 on tow fuel, etc., is...well you get the point.
As stated above Castrol SRF is simply the best.
Do 6 track events and your bleeding 6 times with a $12 bottle. Do the same events with CRF and you only do it once.
That said, I've used both Motul and ATE (Blue and Amber) and they do the job very well. (I like to alternate the Blue to make bleeding easier)
I'm all for saving $ but the diff between $10, $12, $14 for brake fluid when your spending $1600 on tires, $600 on pads, $150 fuel, $300 on tow fuel, etc., is...well you get the point.
As stated above Castrol SRF is simply the best.
Do 6 track events and your bleeding 6 times with a $12 bottle. Do the same events with CRF and you only do it once.