Spec clutch / Slave issues / Tick master cyl.
06-30-2010, 09:37 PM
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Le Mans Master
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Spec clutch / Slave issues / Tick master cyl.
So after installing a Spec Clutch I'm having hydraulic issues and I'm tired of it.
I have a remote bleeder that I have to use every day at the track, but I want to fix this problem once and for all.
Basically I can't get a good pedal - ever. Clutch engagement is immediate (1 inch from floor at most) and I'm grinding gears badly.
Will the Tick adjustable m/c fix this problem?
I'm looking for experienced knowledge rather than speculation since 300 bucks is well.....300 bucks.
I have a remote bleeder that I have to use every day at the track, but I want to fix this problem once and for all.
Basically I can't get a good pedal - ever. Clutch engagement is immediate (1 inch from floor at most) and I'm grinding gears badly.
Will the Tick adjustable m/c fix this problem?
I'm looking for experienced knowledge rather than speculation since 300 bucks is well.....300 bucks.
06-30-2010, 10:10 PM
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Burning Brakes
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I was having clutch issues about 2 years ago right when the Tick was being developed. Unfortunately it wasn't available when my shop was to do the clutch change so I wasn't able to change it as well. I went to the LS7 setup.
From my research back then, I saw many favorable posts on ls1tech for it. My clutch was sticking though, so anything is an improvement over that. Now I'm running much faster and harder and not experiencing any clutch issues. I, however, don't shift as fast as I would if I were doing a TT just so I don't get back into a sticking clutch situation. I can still tell when the clutch is heating up because it becomes much more notchy when taking out/putting into gear.
It is my sneaking suspicion though that once you start having clutch issues, anything you do is a bandaid until you breakdown and put a new clutch in. 300 bux is well... cheaper then doing an entire clutch change. In which case if you did have to do a clutch change, at least the master would be new... and adjustable...
From my research back then, I saw many favorable posts on ls1tech for it. My clutch was sticking though, so anything is an improvement over that. Now I'm running much faster and harder and not experiencing any clutch issues. I, however, don't shift as fast as I would if I were doing a TT just so I don't get back into a sticking clutch situation. I can still tell when the clutch is heating up because it becomes much more notchy when taking out/putting into gear.
It is my sneaking suspicion though that once you start having clutch issues, anything you do is a bandaid until you breakdown and put a new clutch in. 300 bux is well... cheaper then doing an entire clutch change. In which case if you did have to do a clutch change, at least the master would be new... and adjustable...
06-30-2010, 10:18 PM
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A couple of months ago installed the Spec 2 with Al. flywheel on my '03 Z06. Stock M/C no worky-worky, you could not JAM it into gear! Installed Tick, works like a dream. Clutch is stiff but positive and engages close to floor which is perfect for track RPM/shift coordination. You will be happy with C5 operation. 
C6 is different story with Spec. They need a LOT more validation before releasing C6 stuff.
C6 is different story with Spec. They need a LOT more validation before releasing C6 stuff.
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06-30-2010, 10:19 PM
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Drifting
i put a tick in my gto track car (Spec 2 - RPM Level 5 T56) and it helped alot. Inherited a 1st and reverse gear engagement problem, and balky shifting in general, when i acquired current Z. installed the tick (first mod) and all shift issues were resolved. Im a believer. btw..the install is a real bitch...
will a tick fix your issue ? maybe.
will a tick fix your issue ? maybe.
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06-30-2010, 10:41 PM
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Melting Slicks
Have you determined why you have to bleed it everyday at the track??
I assume air is getting into the system..
Is the clutch finger height lower on the Spec clutch compared to the stock clutch.??
I doubt if anyone can say for sure that the Tick adj. m/c will fix the problem until we are certain what the problem is.
It could be a bad slave, a fluid leak at a line connection, or a bad m/c.
Good luck with your diagnosis.
I assume air is getting into the system..
Is the clutch finger height lower on the Spec clutch compared to the stock clutch.??
I doubt if anyone can say for sure that the Tick adj. m/c will fix the problem until we are certain what the problem is.
It could be a bad slave, a fluid leak at a line connection, or a bad m/c.
Good luck with your diagnosis.
07-01-2010, 08:30 AM
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The problem is not unique. His problem began after installing the Spec clutch. I, another poster here, and several of my friends experienced the same M/C problem. Tick is a cure, not that others aren't but the OEM M/C just won't cut it.
07-01-2010, 10:18 AM
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Melting Slicks
does this make sense
Your thoughts...............
07-01-2010, 11:46 AM
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Le Mans Master
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Rumor has it that the Mcleod unit is easier to install.
I have a cage with full Nascar bars on the drivers side so getting down there to pull the pedal is going to be a chore.
Any recommendations?
I have a cage with full Nascar bars on the drivers side so getting down there to pull the pedal is going to be a chore.
Any recommendations?
07-01-2010, 01:46 PM
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Drifting
Im not sure the McLeod is as good a piece as the tilton that tick uses. Also, the Mcleod has a history of failing / leaking - doesn't it?
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07-01-2010, 01:49 PM
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Melting Slicks
I had the exact same problem as you, put a homebrew tick in there and it fixed it.
Now, looking at it id just buy the tick piece and save myself some work...
And yes install is a HUGE bitch.
Now, looking at it id just buy the tick piece and save myself some work...
And yes install is a HUGE bitch.
07-01-2010, 02:14 PM
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Last I spoke to McLeod they said they had found another source for their adjustable MC.
FWIW, I've had no problems with my setup. Mcleod street twin, Mcleod adjustable MC and stock slave w/remote bleed line installed. I flush the fluid before every event as a precautionary measure, but I've never had the sticky pedal or clutch 'switch' that I read people talking about.
FWIW, I've had no problems with my setup. Mcleod street twin, Mcleod adjustable MC and stock slave w/remote bleed line installed. I flush the fluid before every event as a precautionary measure, but I've never had the sticky pedal or clutch 'switch' that I read people talking about.
07-01-2010, 03:18 PM
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Race Director
My trick has always been to remove the drivers seat and flip over on my back and throw your feet over the back. It helps to have friend hand you tools etc ...
07-01-2010, 04:21 PM
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Le Mans Master
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07-01-2010, 04:44 PM
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Drifting
Spec II Clutch installed and clutch would not disengage. The Tick master cylinder solved the problem with mine too. The clutch pedal is quit stiff but it works well.
The installation is a little tough for an old guy like me especially with a roll cage, i put a nice thick blanket down in the floor board and then get on your back and put your feet up in the seat, take advil for the next two or three days!
The installation is a little tough for an old guy like me especially with a roll cage, i put a nice thick blanket down in the floor board and then get on your back and put your feet up in the seat, take advil for the next two or three days!
07-01-2010, 04:45 PM
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Scott
I have the Spec clutch and had the same problem you are experiencing. I installed the Tick and have had no problems since. Let me know if I can help.
Rick
I have the Spec clutch and had the same problem you are experiencing. I installed the Tick and have had no problems since. Let me know if I can help.
Rick
07-01-2010, 05:01 PM
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Race Director
A case of beer and some sandwiches or pizza will solve that problem 
I feel your pain, just got done pulling the tranny out of my all-wheel drive grand cherokee, what a job. Need to go take a nap now.
Spec II Clutch installed and clutch would not disengage. The Tick master cylinder solved the problem with mine too. The clutch pedal is quit stiff but it works well.
The installation is a little tough for an old guy like me especially with a roll cage, i put a nice thick blanket down in the floor board and then get on your back and put your feet up in the seat, take advil for the next two or three days!
The installation is a little tough for an old guy like me especially with a roll cage, i put a nice thick blanket down in the floor board and then get on your back and put your feet up in the seat, take advil for the next two or three days!
I feel your pain, just got done pulling the tranny out of my all-wheel drive grand cherokee, what a job. Need to go take a nap now.
07-11-2010, 02:28 PM
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Le Mans Master
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sperkins
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07-11-2010, 03:14 PM
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Drifting
