Brakes and suspension school
07-08-2009, 09:16 PM
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Brakes and suspension school
i have a 01 z06 with ms4 cam, full exhaust, vararam, pushing 435, 399 on nitto r2's
looking for an awesome handling street car. car will be driven primarily on the street.
looking for:
pads - carbotech or cobalt looking for a pad with long life and strong initial bite
rotors - slotted or No . main concern is price
sway bars and shocks - no idea
let the school begin
looking for an awesome handling street car. car will be driven primarily on the street.
looking for:
pads - carbotech or cobalt looking for a pad with long life and strong initial bite
rotors - slotted or No . main concern is price
sway bars and shocks - no idea
let the school begin
07-08-2009, 09:42 PM
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For a great handling street car on a budget I would consider the following:
04Z shocks and T1 bars with metal endlinks, or pfadt street bars.
04Z brake pads on stock rotors. Get some stainless steel lines and bleed in some new fluid (high temp). Bleed the same new fluid into your clutch reservoir regularly.
For more money I would do the following:
Coilovers such as pfadt, LG, etc. with stock sway bars (softer), T1 bars (stiffer) or pfadt street bars (adjustable).
No need to really spend much on brakes for a street car IMO, I would just do what I wrote above. I would just stick with a good street pad so you don't get a bunch of brake dust all over your wheels. The steel lines will help keep your pedal nice and firm.
04Z shocks and T1 bars with metal endlinks, or pfadt street bars.
04Z brake pads on stock rotors. Get some stainless steel lines and bleed in some new fluid (high temp). Bleed the same new fluid into your clutch reservoir regularly.
For more money I would do the following:
Coilovers such as pfadt, LG, etc. with stock sway bars (softer), T1 bars (stiffer) or pfadt street bars (adjustable).
No need to really spend much on brakes for a street car IMO, I would just do what I wrote above. I would just stick with a good street pad so you don't get a bunch of brake dust all over your wheels. The steel lines will help keep your pedal nice and firm.
07-08-2009, 11:39 PM
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Pads will be a compromise - hard to have long lasting, non-dusting and strong bite. The Hawk + pads get good reviews.
Drilled and slotted rotors are mostly for looks but they will add to dust and pad usage. They also will crack quickly if used hard. That being said, I have them on my car, but switch to stock rotors for the track.
Bilstein makes a good shock that gets good reviews, and I think they are cheaper than the 04 or c6 shocks. They can also be revavled in the future if needed. Swaybars depends on how radical you want to go.
Definitely upgrade fluid in brake and clutch, especially brakes.
Now, do some track days or ax's and learn what your car can really do. Get all the seat time you can. You will be surprised by how much your car will exceed your driving. Be safe and have fun.
Drilled and slotted rotors are mostly for looks but they will add to dust and pad usage. They also will crack quickly if used hard. That being said, I have them on my car, but switch to stock rotors for the track.
Bilstein makes a good shock that gets good reviews, and I think they are cheaper than the 04 or c6 shocks. They can also be revavled in the future if needed. Swaybars depends on how radical you want to go.
Definitely upgrade fluid in brake and clutch, especially brakes.
Now, do some track days or ax's and learn what your car can really do. Get all the seat time you can. You will be surprised by how much your car will exceed your driving. Be safe and have fun.
07-09-2009, 07:34 AM
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For a great handling street car on a budget I would consider the following:
04Z shocks and T1 bars with metal endlinks, or pfadt street bars.
04Z brake pads on stock rotors. Get some stainless steel lines and bleed in some new fluid (high temp). Bleed the same new fluid into your clutch reservoir regularly.
04Z shocks and T1 bars with metal endlinks, or pfadt street bars.
04Z brake pads on stock rotors. Get some stainless steel lines and bleed in some new fluid (high temp). Bleed the same new fluid into your clutch reservoir regularly.
07-09-2009, 08:20 AM
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99% of a great handling street car is alignment, shocks, and tires.
Get the car cornerweighted, lowered about an inch, get a set of shocks and then do a serious performance alignment.
I prefer the Koni sports, but there are others that are just fine too.
Do that and you will be able to extrude your passengers brains out of their ears....
No need to spend big dollars to get what you are looking for.
Get the car cornerweighted, lowered about an inch, get a set of shocks and then do a serious performance alignment.
I prefer the Koni sports, but there are others that are just fine too.
Do that and you will be able to extrude your passengers brains out of their ears....
No need to spend big dollars to get what you are looking for.
07-09-2009, 05:29 PM
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Not a great deal to add, because the rest of the posters got it right. In your shoes, I would:
1) At least get a set of endlinks. The stock ones are not bad but the T1 are better.
2) Lower the car intelligently! An inch or so, maintaining rake, will work wonders.
3) 04 Z shocks are very good, and what I'd go with.
4) Good alignment. No telling what it was from the factory, so get it aligned somewhere between track and street settings.
5) Keep good tire pressure. Street tires corner a little better with slightly higher than stock pressure too, if you run hard cornering, and if they are not too old. Of course, if you're drag racing, that's a different story.
1) At least get a set of endlinks. The stock ones are not bad but the T1 are better.
2) Lower the car intelligently! An inch or so, maintaining rake, will work wonders.
3) 04 Z shocks are very good, and what I'd go with.
4) Good alignment. No telling what it was from the factory, so get it aligned somewhere between track and street settings.
5) Keep good tire pressure. Street tires corner a little better with slightly higher than stock pressure too, if you run hard cornering, and if they are not too old. Of course, if you're drag racing, that's a different story.
