Would having a thermostatic sandwich adaptor effect an accusump?
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Would having a thermostatic sandwich adaptor effect an accusump?
I am looking at getting one of These to use for an oil cooler. If I put an accumulator on the return line would this adapter stop the accumulator from filling up until the oil is warm? Is there a way to remove the thermostat, or should I route the accumulator to another place? Would the accumulator use the return line in the adapter to fill up?
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I would remove the stock cooler on my L98 which is a sandwich adapter and put one of these in its place. The filter shouldnt be any lower than stock.
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Thanks Randy! Any other opinions?
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I always plumb my accusumps directly into the block, separate from the oil cooler loop. I don't know what ports are available on your car, but in the C5 this is the way I do it.
The unit you list doesn't specify if it blocks oil leaving the adapter, or returning, so you might want to ensure the return is always open if you plan on plumbing the accusump in the oil cooler loop.
The unit you list doesn't specify if it blocks oil leaving the adapter, or returning, so you might want to ensure the return is always open if you plan on plumbing the accusump in the oil cooler loop.
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Is there enough pressure in the oil gallery in the side of the block? I would think having the oil come in right by the sending unit would be the best place...?
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I'm sorta baffled by the device you've linked.
All the oil cooler temperature bypass devices I've seen (and one that I've got on one of the race cars) have 3 or 4 ports...not the apparent 2 on the Derale device you've shown.
Consider this...oil pump sucks oil from the sump, and drives it into the outer shell of the filter. Oil from the inner shell of the filter either returns to the block (if you're using a plain old oil filter on the block) OR, if you're using a sandwich plate to get oil to an external oil cooler and Accusump, send it thru the cooler and Accusump system.
My 4-port oil temperature valve dumps back into the return lines, after the Accusump check valve. If you put a 2-port temperature control valve in line, you're going to STARVE your oiling system (BOOM) until it comes up to temperature.
I've only put one of these oil temperature things in a race car, and I took it out after season 1 (about 15 years ago). Too many fancy doo-dads...too much stuff to screw up. Avoid all that nonsense...just take a few minutes to warm up your car before you take it on-track. Can't even imagine the necessity for it if it's purely a street car.
YMMV.
All the oil cooler temperature bypass devices I've seen (and one that I've got on one of the race cars) have 3 or 4 ports...not the apparent 2 on the Derale device you've shown.
Consider this...oil pump sucks oil from the sump, and drives it into the outer shell of the filter. Oil from the inner shell of the filter either returns to the block (if you're using a plain old oil filter on the block) OR, if you're using a sandwich plate to get oil to an external oil cooler and Accusump, send it thru the cooler and Accusump system.
My 4-port oil temperature valve dumps back into the return lines, after the Accusump check valve. If you put a 2-port temperature control valve in line, you're going to STARVE your oiling system (BOOM) until it comes up to temperature.
I've only put one of these oil temperature things in a race car, and I took it out after season 1 (about 15 years ago). Too many fancy doo-dads...too much stuff to screw up. Avoid all that nonsense...just take a few minutes to warm up your car before you take it on-track. Can't even imagine the necessity for it if it's purely a street car.
YMMV.
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I think that unit still has inlet/outlets on the bottom for a filter, but has the additional outlet loop for the cooler. However I agree that I'd prefer not to have the temp bypass at all.
Kubs, would you rather get oil to your BEARINGS, or to you SENSOR?????? In the LS motors, there is a port on the side that goes right into the heart of the oiling system. I've always used it for accusumps, and it's sooooo nice to prelube and get 25psi of oil pressure (at the sender) BEFORE ever turning the key.
Kubs, would you rather get oil to your BEARINGS, or to you SENSOR?????? In the LS motors, there is a port on the side that goes right into the heart of the oiling system. I've always used it for accusumps, and it's sooooo nice to prelube and get 25psi of oil pressure (at the sender) BEFORE ever turning the key.
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I wanted to dump where the oil was needed and I thought the pressure sensor picked up in an important spot. However I think I am going to route the cooler in front of the radiator and just put the accusump by itself in the side of the block like stated. In an L98 there should already be a plugged hole for the accusump correct? Does anyone know what size fitting I would need to put in there?