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Old 10-13-2008, 10:44 PM
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Default C4 guys: toe rods to go with your trailing arms & camber rods

The trailing arms and camber rods have been shown in another thread.

But now there are toe rods to go along with it.

These images show the kit without the safety plate for clarity





With the safety plate in place



The indexing features on the back of the batwing bracket



On the knuckle side a high strength 17-4 PH Stainless Steel adapter attaches the rod to the knuckle.

Without the safety washer for clarity.



With the safety washer in place


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Old 10-13-2008, 11:06 PM
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That's all very fancy, but it is really necessary?
I havn't had a need for anything that fancy in 10000 track miles.
Old 10-13-2008, 11:31 PM
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There's a heap of binding in a stock C4 suspension.

Too many links with bushed ends that really more in more than 1 plane.

Here's my stock suspension at full droop.



See all the bulges in the bushings?
Old 10-14-2008, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by the blur
That's all very fancy, but it is really necessary?
I havn't had a need for anything that fancy in 10000 track miles.
I suppose you could ask that question about any product really?

I had a number of requests for it however after I introduced the trailing arms and camber rods so I tried to supply what my customers wanted.

IMHO, it does offer easier maintenance in the long run as it is much easier to replace any worn components than the stock setup as you don't have to buy a whole sub-assembly. I also like that there is no need to grease the rear suspension any longer.
Old 10-14-2008, 07:45 AM
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Friction in a suspension system is never good. Many people think of it like a form of damping but it is to be avoided at all costs. Friction makes the car "darty" and have poor compliance over small ripple bumps. Also, the precision of this as opposed to the OE keeps the tires pointed in the desired direction and not only makes the car less twitchy, but increases tire life. Chris Ingle has a video of his C5 rear suspension under load and it is amazing how much the rubber suspension moves around under load. A C4 has even more "opportunities' to move around.
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Originally Posted by the blur
That's all very fancy, but it is really necessary?
I havn't had a need for anything that fancy in 10000 track miles.
I just completed my first event (CMP) after having installed astocks' pieces. It made a noticible difference in keeping the rear planted in a long high speed sweeper. Prior to the installation, I could feel the rear bouncing and I needed to feather the throttle to control wheel spin. No more! I could keep my right foot in it, dial in the power and never broke traction. My lap time dropped noticibly and although I have not pulled data off the DL1 yet, I suspect sector times will have dropped and G forces will be up in that section. The formula never changes.
Speed=$.

Oh yea-Brian- I am sorry to hear your butt is drooping
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Updated the OP to show the safety washers added to the kit.
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so, which of these parts are BSP legal??
Old 10-22-2008, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 66IISS
so, which of these parts are BSP legal??
Unfortunately, none. As I read the Solo 2 rules: spherical joints bump you into SM/SM2.
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I just combed through that and noticed. Shucks. It'd be nice to put down some power sometime, the wide as hell tires do help though. Maybe sm2 is in the future afterall....

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