rikhek

Planning on running my Vredestein street tires at Hallett instead of R compounds just for a change and to see how they do.

Not sure which pads to run. In the garage I currently have:

- Base C6 pads (non Z51)
- C5 Z06 pads
- Hawk HPS
- Hawk HP+
- Carbotech 10/8
- Wilwood H
- Hawk HT14
- Hawk DTC70
- PFC 01

What do you think would work best. I don't want too much or too little pad.....

TIA

Rick

sperkins

C5z

0Todd TCE

Agreed, or perhaps the HP+.

A note of concern however....if you own all these and swap around trying one or the other this may be a problem for you. With the different manufactures and pad materials you may encounter a severe build up of transfer that the next pad cannot easily get past. I've seen this many times in particular on the PFC pads. The high carbon content is often smeared over by the next pad tried resulting in poor performance from the second pad.

If I were to be "pad testing" I'd be certain that the rotors were at least hand sanded between pads to try and obtain the best base iron finish I could before I put the new compound to it.

Joy of 6

I've got Vredesteins and have been using the Carbo 10/8 combination with lots of success

C66 Racing

I was going to suggest trying the Carbotechs as well. While they might have a little bit too much initial bite, they won't fade on you like many of the others will.

Aardwolf

I agree on the Carbo combo or something similar, don't use the C5Z pads. I ran those at Road America and didn't like them at all. I could not use my brakes to the max as they would fade. You may have better ducting then I though.

rustyguns

rikhek

Todd,

Thanks for the input. I always have "fresh" rotors with a pad change. Either new or cleaned up.

I have a bunch of different pads as whenever I come across a deal I buy them. Either at the track, ebay or the forum. I have track friends who sell their vette or upgrade brakes and give me a hell of a deal on all their leftovers. One friend recently bought an Ariel and he basically gave me 20 boxes of various pads, many new/unused. Can never have too many pads. I buy a lot of used pads from racers who sell with lots of life left for a track day guy like me.....

Rick

P.S. I'm the guy who bought 3 sets of the Wilwood H's from you last week.

Aprilia1

I would recommend using the pads beginning with the Carbotechs on down. Just made the mistake of trying a different pad than my usual (Carbotech) setup last week. Won't blame or name the pad brand as I made the decision based upon the "track pad suitable for street" description and went with it. Big mistake on my part. Had my foot so far into the pedal I felt like Fred Flintstone trying get the braking I was accustomed to and expected. Results were my lines were way off and just plain made any consistency impossible. Final straw was rotor suffered a radial fracture early in afternoon ending the day as I was staying on the brakes much harder/longer than with other pads.

Sorry for the long explanation but you can see where this ended up so stay with proven track performers regardless of your tire choice. I would much rather have too much brake torque/no fade than the alternative. Good luck.

A1

drivinhard

I don't think the stock C5Z pads are up to the track, at least the times I've used them. They fade pretty quick, and wear really fast at high temps, and they have terrible bite at temp.

Here's a pic of a brand new Carbotech XP10 (right) next to a GM C5Z pad (center) after 100 miles on the track/1 event (pads only had a few thousand street miles before this). On the left is an XP10 after 4 hard track days, and 2000 miles of street driving. All were used with F1 SC's.

Aardwolf

I totally agree, I only used them based on many comments here about how good they were. They did not work well for me for track use, however they are doing great for a street pad though!!! I had fade and wore them away at least twice as fast as my normal Carbos.

Adam@Amp'dAutosport.com

xp10 and xp8 but i am biased good luck with the event which ever way you go.