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Old 08-20-2008, 12:55 AM
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Default LS2 oil pan on a LS1 question

I'm going to put an LS2 oil pan on my 2000 FRC to aid oil pickup in sustained high G corners. The old LS2 oil pan is no longer available and the new one apparently has a new pick up, filter mount, and oil level/temperature sensor.

So my question's are:

Other than the new LS2 oil pan, where do I find the part numbers I need to make everything work?

Can I use the old pick up from my LS1 oil pan?

Would it be better to use the new one?

Can I use the old filter mount from my LS1 oil pan?

Would it be better to use the new one?

Can I use the old oil level/temperature sensor from my LS1 oil pan?

Would it be better to use the new one?

Thanks in advance,
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:18 AM
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I dont know the answer to this and I hope to learn something through this thread but how would the LS2 pan help oil starvation in High G turns. The reason I ask is because I spun a rod bearing because of that but I went to a 3 quart accusump to help instead.
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I dont know the answer to this and I hope to learn something through this thread but how would the LS2 pan help oil starvation in High G turns. The reason I ask is because I spun a rod bearing because of that but I went to a 3 quart accusump to help instead.
The LS2 oil pan has internal baffles and eliminates the the "wings" of the LS1 oil pan, reducing the chance that all the oil in the pan might slosh away from the pickup.

I'm trying to fix the problem before I apply a bandaid (accusump). I'll install an accusump if necessary, but I want to try this first. I ran a 2001 Z06 for years without an accusump and didn't have any problems.
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The LS2 pan kit I got from Gene Culley (gmpartshouse.com) came with a new oil filter mouint, gasket, and sensors - ready to bolt on. You can re-use your LS1 pickup.
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There is still a lot of debate as to if the LS2 pan is better. I always use them because it is at least as good as the LS6 and it opens up a lot of room in the engine bay.

You can use the old filter mount or the new one with a 48 filter

You can use your old sensor

I have never had a problem with the pickup but you should always measure to be sure

With either pan you should run an accusump
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There is still a lot of debate as to if the LS2 pan is better. I always use them because it is at least as good as the LS6 and it opens up a lot of room in the engine bay.

You can use the old filter mount or the new one with a 48 filter

You can use your old sensor

I have never had a problem with the pickup but you should always measure to be sure

With either pan you should run an accusump
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Originally Posted by DALE C
There is still a lot of debate as to if the LS2 pan is better. I always use them because it is at least as good as the LS6 and it opens up a lot of room in the engine bay.

You can use the old filter mount or the new one with a 48 filter

You can use your old sensor

I have never had a problem with the pickup but you should always measure to be sure

With either pan you should run an accusump
I agree as well.

The LS2 setup also saves about 8lb and a quart vs the LS1 batwing design.
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I have a newer LS2 pan and the stock pick-up works fine, just use the oil sensor from your stock pan, and when you get filters from now on you get them for a 07+ C6.
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does anybody have a picture comparison of the two?
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Here ya go.. specs and pics of ALL LS pans

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=817787
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Great Information!

Thanks
Old 08-22-2008, 12:06 AM
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I believe there is a racer here that lost 3 LS2 engines last year. (no names but he has a T1 record at VIR) I believe I would just stick with the LS6 pan myself (even on the LS2).
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Originally Posted by WBHighwind
does anybody have a picture comparison of the two?
Found this picture of the LS2 oil pan. Note the baffles to keep the oil from sloshing all to one side and the lack of the "bat wings" on the LS1 pan so the oil has less of a chance of being away from the pick up.




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Thanks for the pic. I had to look at a few different pictures to get an understanding of what the batwings were but I get it now. So it would seem that without the batwings that the LS2 pan would have a slightly lesser capacity? That is unless it is a little deeper or different in some other dimension.
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Originally Posted by WBHighwind
Thanks for the pic. I had to look at a few different pictures to get an understanding of what the batwings were but I get it now. So it would seem that without the batwings that the LS2 pan would have a slightly lesser capacity? That is unless it is a little deeper or different in some other dimension.
Numbers I have seen indicate 1 quart less capacity (pan is NOT significantly deeper). But what good is one more quart if all of it has pooled up in the "bat wing" because of high G forces and no baffles?
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Higher volume generally equals lower temps ... and many run factory pans 1/2 to 1 qt overfilled to avoid the starvation problem with great success ... not the perfect solution, but it works. So does an accusump.

High quality, higher viscocity oil also may work. Supposedly GM engineers visited Bondurant's driving school when he was consistently frying bearings ... their recommendation? run 15-50 synthetic instead of the factory spec 5-30. Reportedly, it solved the problem.

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