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Old 08-16-2008, 09:44 AM
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Default Just read "Curing" for Hoosiers - Hmmm...

According to Hoosier's web site, after the initial heat cycle, you need to let your A6 or R6 "cure" for minimum of 24 hours - one week recommended.

How do you guys do this? A second set of wheels and tires?

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Yes.
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Yes.
So how do you heat cycle your tires and bed your new pads and rotors?
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Originally Posted by kermooni
So how do you heat cycle your tires and bed your new pads and rotors?
Bed new Pads and rotors on OLD tires.

Heat cycle tires, one good heat cycle to get the mold release off and set the rubber. Remember to mark the tires LF RF, RR LR

Let them set aside for one day min or the next time your going to the track.
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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Bed new Pads and rotors on OLD tires.

Heat cycle tires, one good heat cycle to get the mold release off and set the rubber. Remember to mark the tires LF RF, RR LR

Let them set aside for one day min or the next time your going to the track.
There goes my first two sessions around Road America It is not like I get a hundred sessions during a weekend.

I guess the first two are "Learn the track" ones

Thanks Tom.
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The Hoosier guys themselves have told me A6 don't need to be heat cycled.

I never do and they seem to work fine.

The R6 supposedly does need it.

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Originally Posted by Olitho
The Hoosier guys themselves have told me A6 don't need to be heat cycled.

I never do and they seem to work fine.

The R6 supposedly does need it.

I have heard that too. But the As also work better with a heat cycle in.
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Originally Posted by Olitho
The Hoosier guys themselves have told me A6 don't need to be heat cycled.

I never do and they seem to work fine.

The R6 supposedly does need it.

According to Hoosier guys AND their web site:

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"Cure" Time
After completing the initial run phase, the length of time the tire is allowed to set is possibly more important. The barest minimum for this process to be beneficial is 24 hours. (Not "the next day"). Any less than this is a waste of time. The best situation would allow a week before using the tire again.

Proper tire management is a difficult process. To accomplish this almost always requires a second set of wheels. The payoff is greatly increased competitive tire life.

Following the recommended break-in procedure will require a lot of planning to make it work. The benefits to doing it right include greatly increased tire life as well as consistent performance and durability under stress. Please make an effort to educate your team on the importance of this. It can save you a lot of money.
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That is why the Tire Rack heat cycling service is so valuable. You get at least the 24 hour period and probably the week before you use the tires. $15 per tire is cheaper than a second set of wheels and tires.

Bill
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I personally stopped worrying about heat cycling, and bedding years ago. Just drive and have fun. you won't notice the difference.
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Originally Posted by Olitho
The Hoosier guys themselves have told me A6 don't need to be heat cycled.

I never do and they seem to work fine.

The R6 supposedly does need it.

I put a new set of A6s on for the ProSolo Finale last year and ran them Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday (all two driver events)...flipped them on the rims and now have over 120 runs on them with more to go...all without heat cycling them.

Personally I'm amazed at both the wear and the grip remaining.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
That is why the Tire Rack heat cycling service is so valuable. You get at least the 24 hour period and probably the week before you use the tires. $15 per tire is cheaper than a second set of wheels and tires.

Bill
Now why didn't I think of that ...

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Originally Posted by TedDBere
I put a new set of A6s on for the ProSolo Finale last year and ran them Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday (all two driver events)...flipped them on the rims and now have over 120 runs on them with more to go...all without heat cycling them.

Personally I'm amazed at both the wear and the grip remaining.
I find A6s are fast to the very end. But that end comes a lot quicker than on R6s.
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Originally Posted by the blur
I personally stopped worrying about heat cycling, and bedding years ago. Just drive and have fun. you won't notice the difference.
I agree.
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only on R6s for track use, no real impact to heat cycle A6s for autox - just scrub them in and go

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