Corvette LMP under development?
11-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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Corvette LMP under development?
FWIW - The Nov. 5th print edition of Autoweek is reporting that Chevy has started design work on a new LM prototype built to the forthcoming ACO LMP evo category, styled after the Corvette, with P&M in charge of the project. The report states that the first phase of wind tunnel tesing is complete, with the plan to have the first car running by Oct. '08. The car would start racing in 2009, the first year the new LMP evo class would be eligilble to comptete under ACO regulations.
Neither Chevy nor P&M would confirm/deny the report, only stating that all options are being considered.
Note: there have been some previous reports in Autoweek concerning various future LMP, GT plans which have not been accurate.
Neither Chevy nor P&M would confirm/deny the report, only stating that all options are being considered.
Note: there have been some previous reports in Autoweek concerning various future LMP, GT plans which have not been accurate.
11-02-2007, 05:46 PM
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Unless the ACO substantially changes the rules governing the diesel engines I don't see Chevy running a Corvette LMP. They would also have to run a diesel to compete. It would be pretty cool to have an LMP but I really don't see it helping in the brand recognition area. The GT1 cars have done that exceptionally well and I think they will do better (brand wise) in GT2 rather than LMP.
11-02-2007, 06:15 PM
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Unless the ACO substantially changes the rules governing the diesel engines I don't see Chevy running a Corvette LMP. They would also have to run a diesel to compete. It would be pretty cool to have an LMP but I really don't see it helping in the brand recognition area. The GT1 cars have done that exceptionally well and I think they will do better (brand wise) in GT2 rather than LMP.
11-02-2007, 08:10 PM
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In 2008 the ACO is adding 100kg to the weight of the LMP2 cars to re-establish a "performance differential" between the LMP1 and LMP2 clases. In 2008 all LMPs must run on diesel or ethanol-gasoline, and the ACO is contemplating a switch to pure ethanol in the future.
11-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Unless the ACO substantially changes the rules governing the diesel engines I don't see Chevy running a Corvette LMP. They would also have to run a diesel to compete. It would be pretty cool to have an LMP but I really don't see it helping in the brand recognition area. The GT1 cars have done that exceptionally well and I think they will do better (brand wise) in GT2 rather than LMP.
L.P.
11-03-2007, 04:47 PM
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Who cares...
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
The GT1 cars are about as close to what you buy and drive on the street as NASCAR stocker is.... The LMP cars are pretty much a formula car with fenders and a place for a fire bottle and data systems where a "passenger" could sit only if he was a double amputee.... The LMP cars have no windshields or other protection, ground clearance is about 2 inches, to avoid bottoming on the smallest of bumps the spring rates are astronomical, watch them bounce around Sebring!!....it is really a joke...
I am not saying that they aren't fast cars, but the term "prototype" to me means that these are cars that "could" be the basis for a future production car that one could buy and drive on the street.
The idea of allowing "prototypes" to race instead of production based GT cars was made in the mid 60's to bring some life back into the sport. Ferrari was dominating the races and the number of cars showin up and the interest of the public was waning. The car builders didn't think that they could sell a sufficient quantity of cars to meet the requirement of 50 cars for the GT class, so they convinced the FIA to create a class for "one offs", but those cars had to be pretty much "streetable" in that they had a reasonable turning circle, ground clearance, room for two (ok, it was tight), a spare tire, and a suitcase, as well as a full windshield and road going equipment. The cars looked neat, were fast and the result was the "golden age" of endurance racing that flourished in the late 60's. I was there on the fence at Daytona and Sebring in the mid 60's and it was really cool.
Over the years it has devolved into a formula car with fenders, each rule change has loosened the rules, to ostensibly save the competitors money, and thereby increase the size of the field, but that never really happened, so the cars simply got faster and more expensive, but now there was no "aftermarket" for the car once it has become obsolete. Used to be that wealthy collectors would buy the prototypes and put them on the street, but that has gone away, so an obsolete car is pretty much a worthless museum piece until it can be run in vintage racing...
All of racing now is pretty much "sports entertainment", all the cars look alike, they try to make the performance equal, so that the finishes are close every weekend on every track, so that they can compete with NASCAR for the viewers....
Maybe NASCAR has it right, change it into a "driver personality" show and make it like the WWF...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
The GT1 cars are about as close to what you buy and drive on the street as NASCAR stocker is.... The LMP cars are pretty much a formula car with fenders and a place for a fire bottle and data systems where a "passenger" could sit only if he was a double amputee.... The LMP cars have no windshields or other protection, ground clearance is about 2 inches, to avoid bottoming on the smallest of bumps the spring rates are astronomical, watch them bounce around Sebring!!....it is really a joke...
I am not saying that they aren't fast cars, but the term "prototype" to me means that these are cars that "could" be the basis for a future production car that one could buy and drive on the street.
The idea of allowing "prototypes" to race instead of production based GT cars was made in the mid 60's to bring some life back into the sport. Ferrari was dominating the races and the number of cars showin up and the interest of the public was waning. The car builders didn't think that they could sell a sufficient quantity of cars to meet the requirement of 50 cars for the GT class, so they convinced the FIA to create a class for "one offs", but those cars had to be pretty much "streetable" in that they had a reasonable turning circle, ground clearance, room for two (ok, it was tight), a spare tire, and a suitcase, as well as a full windshield and road going equipment. The cars looked neat, were fast and the result was the "golden age" of endurance racing that flourished in the late 60's. I was there on the fence at Daytona and Sebring in the mid 60's and it was really cool.
Over the years it has devolved into a formula car with fenders, each rule change has loosened the rules, to ostensibly save the competitors money, and thereby increase the size of the field, but that never really happened, so the cars simply got faster and more expensive, but now there was no "aftermarket" for the car once it has become obsolete. Used to be that wealthy collectors would buy the prototypes and put them on the street, but that has gone away, so an obsolete car is pretty much a worthless museum piece until it can be run in vintage racing...
All of racing now is pretty much "sports entertainment", all the cars look alike, they try to make the performance equal, so that the finishes are close every weekend on every track, so that they can compete with NASCAR for the viewers....
Maybe NASCAR has it right, change it into a "driver personality" show and make it like the WWF...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
11-03-2007, 08:36 PM
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I disagree, LMP1 & 2 cars are dead sexy. Unlimited hydroplanes with wheels. I doubt you would have found a lap in the right seat of a McLaren, Chaparral, or Lola from 1970 very pleasant (they didn't have any room there either.
While outward styling may not be something you will ever buy from a mfg. (it took Ford 40 years to sell the GT40 to the general public), technologies developed in these classes will find their way into your car (fuel mgmt. and type). /:\
While outward styling may not be something you will ever buy from a mfg. (it took Ford 40 years to sell the GT40 to the general public), technologies developed in these classes will find their way into your car (fuel mgmt. and type). /:\
11-03-2007, 10:15 PM
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Who cares...
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
11-04-2007, 02:36 PM
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Who cares...
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
The GT1 cars are about as close to what you buy and drive on the street as NASCAR stocker is.... The LMP cars are pretty much a formula car with fenders and a place for a fire bottle and data systems where a "passenger" could sit only if he was a double amputee.... The LMP cars have no windshields or other protection, ground clearance is about 2 inches, to avoid bottoming on the smallest of bumps the spring rates are astronomical, watch them bounce around Sebring!!....it is really a joke...
I am not saying that they aren't fast cars, but the term "prototype" to me means that these are cars that "could" be the basis for a future production car that one could buy and drive on the street.
The idea of allowing "prototypes" to race instead of production based GT cars was made in the mid 60's to bring some life back into the sport. Ferrari was dominating the races and the number of cars showin up and the interest of the public was waning. The car builders didn't think that they could sell a sufficient quantity of cars to meet the requirement of 50 cars for the GT class, so they convinced the FIA to create a class for "one offs", but those cars had to be pretty much "streetable" in that they had a reasonable turning circle, ground clearance, room for two (ok, it was tight), a spare tire, and a suitcase, as well as a full windshield and road going equipment. The cars looked neat, were fast and the result was the "golden age" of endurance racing that flourished in the late 60's. I was there on the fence at Daytona and Sebring in the mid 60's and it was really cool.
Over the years it has devolved into a formula car with fenders, each rule change has loosened the rules, to ostensibly save the competitors money, and thereby increase the size of the field, but that never really happened, so the cars simply got faster and more expensive, but now there was no "aftermarket" for the car once it has become obsolete. Used to be that wealthy collectors would buy the prototypes and put them on the street, but that has gone away, so an obsolete car is pretty much a worthless museum piece until it can be run in vintage racing...
All of racing now is pretty much "sports entertainment", all the cars look alike, they try to make the performance equal, so that the finishes are close every weekend on every track, so that they can compete with NASCAR for the viewers....
Maybe NASCAR has it right, change it into a "driver personality" show and make it like the WWF...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
The GT1 cars are about as close to what you buy and drive on the street as NASCAR stocker is.... The LMP cars are pretty much a formula car with fenders and a place for a fire bottle and data systems where a "passenger" could sit only if he was a double amputee.... The LMP cars have no windshields or other protection, ground clearance is about 2 inches, to avoid bottoming on the smallest of bumps the spring rates are astronomical, watch them bounce around Sebring!!....it is really a joke...
I am not saying that they aren't fast cars, but the term "prototype" to me means that these are cars that "could" be the basis for a future production car that one could buy and drive on the street.
The idea of allowing "prototypes" to race instead of production based GT cars was made in the mid 60's to bring some life back into the sport. Ferrari was dominating the races and the number of cars showin up and the interest of the public was waning. The car builders didn't think that they could sell a sufficient quantity of cars to meet the requirement of 50 cars for the GT class, so they convinced the FIA to create a class for "one offs", but those cars had to be pretty much "streetable" in that they had a reasonable turning circle, ground clearance, room for two (ok, it was tight), a spare tire, and a suitcase, as well as a full windshield and road going equipment. The cars looked neat, were fast and the result was the "golden age" of endurance racing that flourished in the late 60's. I was there on the fence at Daytona and Sebring in the mid 60's and it was really cool.
Over the years it has devolved into a formula car with fenders, each rule change has loosened the rules, to ostensibly save the competitors money, and thereby increase the size of the field, but that never really happened, so the cars simply got faster and more expensive, but now there was no "aftermarket" for the car once it has become obsolete. Used to be that wealthy collectors would buy the prototypes and put them on the street, but that has gone away, so an obsolete car is pretty much a worthless museum piece until it can be run in vintage racing...
All of racing now is pretty much "sports entertainment", all the cars look alike, they try to make the performance equal, so that the finishes are close every weekend on every track, so that they can compete with NASCAR for the viewers....
Maybe NASCAR has it right, change it into a "driver personality" show and make it like the WWF...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
If it is so boring and nobody cares why is it being responded to?L.P.
11-04-2007, 02:54 PM
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If you read the rules, the GT2 class is a lot closer to GT1 than it is to a production car. The main difference between GT1 and GT2 is the displacement/weight/restrictor formula which make the GT2 class heavier with less HP. GT2 regs allow the same engine mods as GT1, allows suspension changes (springs/shocks/sways), allows transmission changes, allows light weight replacement of bolt-on body panels, allows splitters, wings and diffusers within the rules, allows brake and brake rotor changes
If only the rules WERE closer to the GT1 rules we could get some body rules that will add significant down force.
Only the lower body below the front axle centerline can be changed. And the rocker pannels can not have anything done for aero other than making them straight down to the chassis bottom.
And the front splitter can not extend beyond the furthest forward point on the body. So from a "plan view" nothing can extend beyond the original body.
And the rear undertray can not have "diffussers" but only a flat pannel that raises up a max of 7 degrees with no side strakes.
Also No carbon brakes so the brake costs come way down.
Body must be an exact duplicate of the factory body and only pannels that can be "unbolted" can be made from Carbon fiber.
The windshield must also be factory glass.
And it looks like the GT class in 2010 will be consolidated to be more like the GT2 class with more engine but still GT2 rules.
I think that GM putting their limited help into the GT2 program says alot. They can now help the LMP program as well as a GT2 program.
I don't see the down side of the LMP class as long the fans still see the value of the GT class which is more like the street cars. Racing is racing.
At any rate, for 2008, the GT2 class will be a great show and it will represent the true Corvette against the best in the world to the Corvette community.
See you at the races.
Lou Gigliotti
Photos of the build of the GT2 car will follow as they come in. LG
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11-04-2007, 02:58 PM
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Who cares...
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
The GT1 cars are about as close to what you buy and drive on the street as NASCAR stocker is.... The LMP cars are pretty much a formula car with fenders and a place for a fire bottle and data systems where a "passenger" could sit only if he was a double amputee.... The LMP cars have no windshields or other protection, ground clearance is about 2 inches, to avoid bottoming on the smallest of bumps the spring rates are astronomical, watch them bounce around Sebring!!....it is really a joke...
I am not saying that they aren't fast cars, but the term "prototype" to me means that these are cars that "could" be the basis for a future production car that one could buy and drive on the street.
The idea of allowing "prototypes" to race instead of production based GT cars was made in the mid 60's to bring some life back into the sport. Ferrari was dominating the races and the number of cars showin up and the interest of the public was waning. The car builders didn't think that they could sell a sufficient quantity of cars to meet the requirement of 50 cars for the GT class, so they convinced the FIA to create a class for "one offs", but those cars had to be pretty much "streetable" in that they had a reasonable turning circle, ground clearance, room for two (ok, it was tight), a spare tire, and a suitcase, as well as a full windshield and road going equipment. The cars looked neat, were fast and the result was the "golden age" of endurance racing that flourished in the late 60's. I was there on the fence at Daytona and Sebring in the mid 60's and it was really cool.
Over the years it has devolved into a formula car with fenders, each rule change has loosened the rules, to ostensibly save the competitors money, and thereby increase the size of the field, but that never really happened, so the cars simply got faster and more expensive, but now there was no "aftermarket" for the car once it has become obsolete. Used to be that wealthy collectors would buy the prototypes and put them on the street, but that has gone away, so an obsolete car is pretty much a worthless museum piece until it can be run in vintage racing...
All of racing now is pretty much "sports entertainment", all the cars look alike, they try to make the performance equal, so that the finishes are close every weekend on every track, so that they can compete with NASCAR for the viewers....
Maybe NASCAR has it right, change it into a "driver personality" show and make it like the WWF...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
Endurance racing has become a big YAWN...
The GT1 cars are about as close to what you buy and drive on the street as NASCAR stocker is.... The LMP cars are pretty much a formula car with fenders and a place for a fire bottle and data systems where a "passenger" could sit only if he was a double amputee.... The LMP cars have no windshields or other protection, ground clearance is about 2 inches, to avoid bottoming on the smallest of bumps the spring rates are astronomical, watch them bounce around Sebring!!....it is really a joke...
I am not saying that they aren't fast cars, but the term "prototype" to me means that these are cars that "could" be the basis for a future production car that one could buy and drive on the street.
The idea of allowing "prototypes" to race instead of production based GT cars was made in the mid 60's to bring some life back into the sport. Ferrari was dominating the races and the number of cars showin up and the interest of the public was waning. The car builders didn't think that they could sell a sufficient quantity of cars to meet the requirement of 50 cars for the GT class, so they convinced the FIA to create a class for "one offs", but those cars had to be pretty much "streetable" in that they had a reasonable turning circle, ground clearance, room for two (ok, it was tight), a spare tire, and a suitcase, as well as a full windshield and road going equipment. The cars looked neat, were fast and the result was the "golden age" of endurance racing that flourished in the late 60's. I was there on the fence at Daytona and Sebring in the mid 60's and it was really cool.
Over the years it has devolved into a formula car with fenders, each rule change has loosened the rules, to ostensibly save the competitors money, and thereby increase the size of the field, but that never really happened, so the cars simply got faster and more expensive, but now there was no "aftermarket" for the car once it has become obsolete. Used to be that wealthy collectors would buy the prototypes and put them on the street, but that has gone away, so an obsolete car is pretty much a worthless museum piece until it can be run in vintage racing...
All of racing now is pretty much "sports entertainment", all the cars look alike, they try to make the performance equal, so that the finishes are close every weekend on every track, so that they can compete with NASCAR for the viewers....
Maybe NASCAR has it right, change it into a "driver personality" show and make it like the WWF...
Sorry for the rant, but really who cares, the only cars that have any relationship with a real car are the GT2 cars, and if you watch the race they maybe have a couple of flashes as to what is happening in GT2, it is a sideshow to the "big race" going in in LMP and GT1.....
11-04-2007, 04:45 PM
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If only the rules WERE closer to the GT1 rules we could get some body rules that will add significant down force.
Only the lower body below the front axle centerline can be changed. And the rocker pannels can not have anything done for aero other than making them straight down to the chassis bottom.
And the front splitter can not extend beyond the furthest forward point on the body. So from a "plan view" nothing can extend beyond the original body.
And the rear undertray can not have "diffussers" but only a flat pannel that raises up a max of 7 degrees with no side strakes.
Also No carbon brakes so the brake costs come way down.
Body must be an exact duplicate of the factory body and only pannels that can be "unbolted" can be made from Carbon fiber.
The windshield must also be factory glass.
And it looks like the GT class in 2010 will be consolidated to be more like the GT2 class with more engine but still GT2 rules.
I think that GM putting their limited help into the GT2 program says alot. They can now help the LMP program as well as a GT2 program.
I don't see the down side of the LMP class as long the fans still see the value of the GT class which is more like the street cars. Racing is racing.
At any rate, for 2008, the GT2 class will be a great show and it will represent the true Corvette against the best in the world to the Corvette community.
See you at the races.
Lou Gigliotti
Photos of the build of the GT2 car will follow as they come in. LG
Only the lower body below the front axle centerline can be changed. And the rocker pannels can not have anything done for aero other than making them straight down to the chassis bottom.
And the front splitter can not extend beyond the furthest forward point on the body. So from a "plan view" nothing can extend beyond the original body.
And the rear undertray can not have "diffussers" but only a flat pannel that raises up a max of 7 degrees with no side strakes.
Also No carbon brakes so the brake costs come way down.
Body must be an exact duplicate of the factory body and only pannels that can be "unbolted" can be made from Carbon fiber.
The windshield must also be factory glass.
And it looks like the GT class in 2010 will be consolidated to be more like the GT2 class with more engine but still GT2 rules.
I think that GM putting their limited help into the GT2 program says alot. They can now help the LMP program as well as a GT2 program.
I don't see the down side of the LMP class as long the fans still see the value of the GT class which is more like the street cars. Racing is racing.
At any rate, for 2008, the GT2 class will be a great show and it will represent the true Corvette against the best in the world to the Corvette community.
See you at the races.
Lou Gigliotti
Photos of the build of the GT2 car will follow as they come in. LG
Thanks for correcting/clarifying my assumptions, its kind of hard for a casual fan to interpret what the rules actually mean. Are you planning to run A/C to comply with cockpit temp requirements?
11-04-2007, 04:58 PM
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If only the rules WERE closer to the GT1 rules we could get some body rules that will add significant down force.
Only the lower body below the front axle centerline can be changed. And the rocker pannels can not have anything done for aero other than making them straight down to the chassis bottom.
And the front splitter can not extend beyond the furthest forward point on the body. So from a "plan view" nothing can extend beyond the original body.
And the rear undertray can not have "diffussers" but only a flat pannel that raises up a max of 7 degrees with no side strakes.
Also No carbon brakes so the brake costs come way down.
Body must be an exact duplicate of the factory body and only pannels that can be "unbolted" can be made from Carbon fiber.
The windshield must also be factory glass.
And it looks like the GT class in 2010 will be consolidated to be more like the GT2 class with more engine but still GT2 rules.
I think that GM putting their limited help into the GT2 program says alot. They can now help the LMP program as well as a GT2 program.
I don't see the down side of the LMP class as long the fans still see the value of the GT class which is more like the street cars. Racing is racing.
At any rate, for 2008, the GT2 class will be a great show and it will represent the true Corvette against the best in the world to the Corvette community.
See you at the races.
Lou Gigliotti
Photos of the build of the GT2 car will follow as they come in. LG
Only the lower body below the front axle centerline can be changed. And the rocker pannels can not have anything done for aero other than making them straight down to the chassis bottom.
And the front splitter can not extend beyond the furthest forward point on the body. So from a "plan view" nothing can extend beyond the original body.
And the rear undertray can not have "diffussers" but only a flat pannel that raises up a max of 7 degrees with no side strakes.
Also No carbon brakes so the brake costs come way down.
Body must be an exact duplicate of the factory body and only pannels that can be "unbolted" can be made from Carbon fiber.
The windshield must also be factory glass.
And it looks like the GT class in 2010 will be consolidated to be more like the GT2 class with more engine but still GT2 rules.
I think that GM putting their limited help into the GT2 program says alot. They can now help the LMP program as well as a GT2 program.
I don't see the down side of the LMP class as long the fans still see the value of the GT class which is more like the street cars. Racing is racing.
At any rate, for 2008, the GT2 class will be a great show and it will represent the true Corvette against the best in the world to the Corvette community.
See you at the races.
Lou Gigliotti
Photos of the build of the GT2 car will follow as they come in. LG
Lou, is Riley building the Vette GT2 in their shop in Mooresville? Their shop is just down the road from me. It doesn't appear to be real big like some of the other shops in the area.
Good luck in '08!
11-04-2007, 07:33 PM
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Hi guys,
Yes we will be using the A/C to comply with the regs. It is easier than running a cool suit and it will be using a stock Corvette AC Compressor (run off the driveshaft) and GM Condenser at the rear.
The rules allow a .3mm larger restrictor to make up for the loss from the AC unit.
Riley does have their shop in Mooresville. they have two buildings next to each other with over 40,000 sq ft in the main building.
They keep their tractor trailers inside and have plenty of room for all the different cars that they build. To date they have built 34 Daytona Protype cars along with their other projects. They did the Mazda Grand Am GT car as well as the new BMW GT cars for Grand Am.
Plus they have a full second story in the building for all the engineering, CFD I.T. guys.
We have built about 15 total World Challenge race cars over the years and I can tell you that the product that we will end up this time is far above any grass roots racer.
Yes, we do have some input considering all of our Corvette experience. Both Bob and Bill Riley came to Atlanta and inspected our C6 World Challenge race car and we were very proud to have them compliment us on a few things that we did. They liked some of what we did and we will probably see signs of what we developed on our new Riley ALMS GT2 car.
The only thing wrong is that we have almost 5 months before Sebring !
Thanks guys.
Lou G
Yes we will be using the A/C to comply with the regs. It is easier than running a cool suit and it will be using a stock Corvette AC Compressor (run off the driveshaft) and GM Condenser at the rear.
The rules allow a .3mm larger restrictor to make up for the loss from the AC unit.
Riley does have their shop in Mooresville. they have two buildings next to each other with over 40,000 sq ft in the main building.
They keep their tractor trailers inside and have plenty of room for all the different cars that they build. To date they have built 34 Daytona Protype cars along with their other projects. They did the Mazda Grand Am GT car as well as the new BMW GT cars for Grand Am.
Plus they have a full second story in the building for all the engineering, CFD I.T. guys.
We have built about 15 total World Challenge race cars over the years and I can tell you that the product that we will end up this time is far above any grass roots racer.
Yes, we do have some input considering all of our Corvette experience. Both Bob and Bill Riley came to Atlanta and inspected our C6 World Challenge race car and we were very proud to have them compliment us on a few things that we did. They liked some of what we did and we will probably see signs of what we developed on our new Riley ALMS GT2 car.
The only thing wrong is that we have almost 5 months before Sebring !
Thanks guys.
Lou G
11-04-2007, 08:41 PM
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Sorry to disagree with you.. but who ever said that a 'prototype' had to make it into production. The FSI engine that Audi ran for many years in the R8 has made it's way into production VW and Audi engines, and now their Diesel engine in the R10 will be the basis for their big wagon in Europe.. The 7 liter engine that the C5Rs used was the basis of the 7 liter in the C6 Z06, and improvements in that design have made their way into the street car.. Bottom line, that is what this type of racing is all about.. improving technology.. not to be the WWE on wheels (ala NASCAR).. If we followed NASCAR we'd be drving tall taxi cabs that all look alike, and have a carburetor and solid rear axle... Bring on real racing...
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11-04-2007, 09:05 PM
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11-05-2007, 10:23 AM
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Hi guys,
Yes we will be using the A/C to comply with the regs. It is easier than running a cool suit and it will be using a stock Corvette AC Compressor (run off the driveshaft) and GM Condenser at the rear.
The rules allow a .3mm larger restrictor to make up for the loss from the AC unit.
Riley does have their shop in Mooresville. they have two buildings next to each other with over 40,000 sq ft in the main building.
They keep their tractor trailers inside and have plenty of room for all the different cars that they build. To date they have built 34 Daytona Protype cars along with their other projects. They did the Mazda Grand Am GT car as well as the new BMW GT cars for Grand Am.
Plus they have a full second story in the building for all the engineering, CFD I.T. guys.
We have built about 15 total World Challenge race cars over the years and I can tell you that the product that we will end up this time is far above any grass roots racer.
Yes, we do have some input considering all of our Corvette experience. Both Bob and Bill Riley came to Atlanta and inspected our C6 World Challenge race car and we were very proud to have them compliment us on a few things that we did. They liked some of what we did and we will probably see signs of what we developed on our new Riley ALMS GT2 car.
The only thing wrong is that we have almost 5 months before Sebring !
Thanks guys.
Lou G
Yes we will be using the A/C to comply with the regs. It is easier than running a cool suit and it will be using a stock Corvette AC Compressor (run off the driveshaft) and GM Condenser at the rear.
The rules allow a .3mm larger restrictor to make up for the loss from the AC unit.
Riley does have their shop in Mooresville. they have two buildings next to each other with over 40,000 sq ft in the main building.
They keep their tractor trailers inside and have plenty of room for all the different cars that they build. To date they have built 34 Daytona Protype cars along with their other projects. They did the Mazda Grand Am GT car as well as the new BMW GT cars for Grand Am.
Plus they have a full second story in the building for all the engineering, CFD I.T. guys.
We have built about 15 total World Challenge race cars over the years and I can tell you that the product that we will end up this time is far above any grass roots racer.
Yes, we do have some input considering all of our Corvette experience. Both Bob and Bill Riley came to Atlanta and inspected our C6 World Challenge race car and we were very proud to have them compliment us on a few things that we did. They liked some of what we did and we will probably see signs of what we developed on our new Riley ALMS GT2 car.
The only thing wrong is that we have almost 5 months before Sebring !
Thanks guys.
Lou G
11-05-2007, 10:42 AM
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Sorry to disagree with you.. but who ever said that a 'prototype' had to make it into production. The FSI engine that Audi ran for many years in the R8 has made it's way into production VW and Audi engines, and now their Diesel engine in the R10 will be the basis for their big wagon in Europe.. The 7 liter engine that the C5Rs used was the basis of the 7 liter in the C6 Z06, and improvements in that design have made their way into the street car.. Bottom line, that is what this type of racing is all about.. improving technology.. not to be the WWE on wheels (ala NASCAR).. If we followed NASCAR we'd be drving tall taxi cabs that all look alike, and have a carburetor and solid rear axle... Bring on real racing...
