Brake pads - Which ones and where to get them?
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Brake pads - Which ones and where to get them?
Taking Z to VIR Aug 9th for first time. I was going to order some cheap rotors to take as a back-up and need to get some pads also. I have Hawk + on now, but they dust so bad, I am ready to replace. I figure I will burn thru them enough at VIR that they will need replacing. I try to do the HPDEs at leat every other month and my car is a daily driver. I would like to do ceramics for street and some dedicated track pads(?). I did search but no real answers for tracks. Whick track pads and where is the best place to get them. Getting rotors from RockAuo.com, but didn't recognize their pads. Thanks for the help.
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Carbotechs!!!!! I run XP12s on Front and XP10s on back. www.ctbrakes.com
If you're running street tires, you might want to go a bit less aggressive (like XP10s on Front and 8s on rear), but I always want the ultimate stopping power on track...and I'll adjust my driving accordingly.
Talk to either Chris or Dan Puskar - great folks. You won't find a better overall pad for the money; and the material is from a ceramic compound so the dust is non corrosive. Great stuff!!!!
If you're running street tires, you might want to go a bit less aggressive (like XP10s on Front and 8s on rear), but I always want the ultimate stopping power on track...and I'll adjust my driving accordingly.
Talk to either Chris or Dan Puskar - great folks. You won't find a better overall pad for the money; and the material is from a ceramic compound so the dust is non corrosive. Great stuff!!!!
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I run Wilwood H compound at the track. I never have any problems with them and they last a long time.
Send me a PM and I will get you a quote on the Wilwood Hs.
As a FYI - If you are going to race pads make sure you buy an extra set of rotors because they will crack. I would also look into brake coolers (I will be posting pics tonight of rotors with and without brake coolers and you will see why they are needed.)
BTW - here is doug@ecs and I running at VIR - have fun.
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Send me a PM and I will get you a quote on the Wilwood Hs.
As a FYI - If you are going to race pads make sure you buy an extra set of rotors because they will crack. I would also look into brake coolers (I will be posting pics tonight of rotors with and without brake coolers and you will see why they are needed.)
BTW - here is doug@ecs and I running at VIR - have fun.
Bob
http://www.ecsracing.com/ecsracing/showthread.php?t=211
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I prefer PFC01 and I have a lightly used set for sale since I converted to Brembo I no longer need them.
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I have the extra set of rotors from Rock Auto. Don't do much hardcore braking in daily driving, so may just pick up PFC ceramics from autozone for $110. So now, just not sure which track pads I need.
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I'm the odd man out. I just started using Ferodo DS-2500 pads all around as a dual purpose (trackday/autox and daily driving). No squealing, more dust than stock but less than HPS pads. So far they have held up just fine under extreme braking as I participated in a Time Trial which was quite brutal. I cannot comment at all on their longevity as I'm only two track days, three autocrosses and about two months of driving on them. Before that I used HPS and they were terrible all around. And thats about all I have tried since I bought the Z06. I used various versions of Cobalts with success on other cars. Next time I plan to try the Carbotechs for track and get stock GM Z06 pads for the street/autox.
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For racing pads I've used either:
Carbotech XP-12 frt/XP 10 rear
or Wilwood " H "
Carbo-tech's are more "Rotor friendly"... and you don't need to worry about the dust.
Carbotech XP-12 frt/XP 10 rear
or Wilwood " H "
Carbo-tech's are more "Rotor friendly"... and you don't need to worry about the dust.
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I've used racingbrake.com ET900 and ET800 at VIR on a double stinted C6 Z06 with very good results. The ET's at 15% thicker than stock and wear better than the hawks's I've used in the past. The 800's are slightly less agressive than the 900's and don't squeak very much when used on the street. The 900's are very agressive track pads which are very good with R-compond tires or slicks. Either ones will easily last the whole weekend. As a bonus the ET's are less expensive than the hawks and carbotech's
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Taking Z to VIR Aug 9th for first time. I was going to order some cheap rotors to take as a back-up and need to get some pads also. I have Hawk + on now, but they dust so bad, I am ready to replace. I figure I will burn thru them enough at VIR that they will need replacing. I try to do the HPDEs at leat every other month and my car is a daily driver. I would like to do ceramics for street and some dedicated track pads(?). I did search but no real answers for tracks. Whick track pads and where is the best place to get them. Getting rotors from RockAuo.com, but didn't recognize their pads. Thanks for the help.
For a beginner like me, I tried the Hawk + and it was an unnecessary expense. The stock pads would have been fine, I did not run the car that hard. Rotors too--I'm glad I didn't decide I needed spares.
I have extra wheels for the front so I don't care about the dust from whatever pad I run.
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Carbotech uses ceramics in their mix and not so much Carbon (like Hawk and others). Carbon changes its characteristics when heated - to that of a hard drill bit which eats the rotors. Ceramics have a higher temperature range before it changes so you don't get quite the abrasive effect/affect. Aggressive pads of any kind are going to scar your rotors more than stock - no question; but at $25 per rotor, that is probably not a determining factor anyway.
Other than stopping power, another key factor to consider is heat transfer (from the pad/rotor to your brake fluid). Again, since the Carbos use ceramics, less heat is transferred to your fluid so it's less likely to boil.
Try the different brands yourself and see what you think. The choice is still clear to me. Drive hard!
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I run the wilwood H pads and love them...but I think I might try something else and less aggressive - I am really tired of going through a set of rotors every weekend.
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Wilwood BP-10 “Smart Pads”
- All kits include BP-10 metallic-composite compound "Smart Pads". BP-10 delivers the increased friction; higher fade resistance, and longer wear of an entry-level track pad, with virtually noise and dust free performance for the street.
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How do the carbotech 8's and Hawk HP Plus compare (to each other)? The c6 z06 i drove at VIR had 8's and I was pleased with the braking...I know others swear the HP Plus pads are great, and honestly, for the price, sound great too!
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The 8s have better track performance and take heat better in my experience on C5s and Z28s...but HP+ seems real close to the stock ZO6 pad (which I have no real issue with)...