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Old 07-02-2007, 01:37 PM
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A few more pics from the track... turns out they got my "off" when trying to trail brake into turn 4 at VIR



Old 07-02-2007, 01:47 PM
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I have never done that before....
Old 07-02-2007, 03:16 PM
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I have never done that before....
Keep spare rocker panels close by-front splitter on C6Z will both cut grass and plow rocks.
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Turn 4? That's a throw away corner
Old 07-02-2007, 03:31 PM
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Turn 4? That's a throw away corner
Correct... but sometimes you've gotta try new things... like sliding through it
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Well, just be very happy the grass was dry.
Old 07-02-2007, 07:11 PM
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were you running the active handling ??
Old 07-02-2007, 09:13 PM
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At least you weren't the vette that hit the tires between 3 & 4. Ouch. Beautiful night here in Danville. Great day. Wasn't too unbearably hot.
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i was on the observation deck when he (black C5) hit the tires and armco... kept the brakes to the floor the whole way into the tires/armco....
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Originally Posted by GreyGT-C
i was on the observation deck when he (black C5) hit the tires and armco... kept the brakes to the floor the whole way into the tires/armco....
I was not there and I did not see it.

I am curious as to what you suggest he should have done?


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Old 07-03-2007, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by the blur
were you running the active handling ??
Nope... don't run AH... it won't let you rotate the car.
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Well, just be very happy the grass was dry.
True... when it's wet out I don't try new things... it was a completely controlled off. Once I knew I wasn't staying on track I just drove it off.
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At least you weren't the vette that hit the tires between 3 & 4. Ouch. Beautiful night here in Danville. Great day. Wasn't too unbearably hot.
I heard about that.. didn't see it.
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i was on the observation deck when he (black C5) hit the tires and armco... kept the brakes to the floor the whole way into the tires/armco....
I take it you're suggesting he could have saved it if he'd kept some throttle and steering vs. going both feet in?
Old 07-03-2007, 11:03 AM
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Damn Brian, Get a John Deer if you want to do a little agricultural work!

Glad you didn't bend anything!

I had flashbacks to my "off" at T10...

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Old 07-03-2007, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Olitho
I was not there and I did not see it.

I am curious as to what you suggest he should have done?


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he was in a sideways/forward slide.... a lil throttle and steering input would have changed his trajectory enough to keep him out of the wall.IMO Not suggesting NOT going both feet in when you get into trouble and trying "to save it", but don't quit driving afterwards, which is what i looked like from my view point. I agree he did the right thing by going both feet in, but after the car was back under control and slowed down greatly... take the car under your control. That's also VERY easy to say while standing on the observation deck... i may have bought a piece of Armco in his situation too.

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Old 07-03-2007, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GreyGT-C
he was in a sideways/forward slide.... a lil throttle and steering input would have changed his trajectory enough to keep him out of the wall.IMO Not suggesting NOT going both feet in when you get into trouble and trying "to save it", but don't quit driving afterwards, which is what i looked like from my view point. I agree he did the right thing by going both feet in, but after the car was back under control and slowed down greatly... take the car under your control. That's also VERY easy to say while standing on the observation deck... i may have bought a piece of Armco in his situation too.
I am the driver that hit the tires/armco. I lost control under power in 3rd gear. I did put both feet in, and and the last minute I tried power, and the car had already shut off,so I braced for the impact. The last thing I saw was armco, but have rubber marks on car. Please tell me what happened. Car was not hurt bad, should be ready for nasa race at vir by end of the month
Thanx, Larry
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did you have the active handling on ??
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did you have the active handling on ??
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rushon
I am the driver that hit the tires/armco. I lost control under power in 3rd gear. Please tell me what happened.
Thanx, Larry
Larry, I'm a beginner but I imagine that you overcooked turn 3 and maybe the car was a little unsettled and your throttle input (which might not have been smooth) caused the spin. You'll have to elaborate on "under power", but throttle input is not something I associate with my memories of turns 3 & 4, steering is.

I remember turns 3 and 4 as both misleadingly (my instinct and eyes kept pushing me to early apex) late apex corners. I had less trouble with 3 as I learned to track out and hit the brakes late and turn late (later then my gut was telling me). With turn 4, I early apexed a little almost every time, and this upset the car a little (just the steering, no extra gas). You really don't need to be on it much here; this is a lot of steering to do and a lot to getting the car to the right part of the apex.

As my instuctor emphasized, if you aren't smooth with the throttle, the downshifts, and the braking (but the first 2 were my larger trouble spots) you will spin your car at VIR if you do those non-smooth inputs in the wrong places. I knew not to lift suddenly or gas suddenly in turns 3-4, there's no downshift there, and of course you brake before the turn, so that's why I never went off.

I'll be working on smoothness of a lot of stuff before I do another DE.
Old 07-05-2007, 10:39 AM
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When in doubt LATE apex with a corvette.
Old 07-05-2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rushon
I am the driver that hit the tires/armco. I lost control under power in 3rd gear. I did put both feet in, and and the last minute I tried power, and the car had already shut off,so I braced for the impact. The last thing I saw was armco, but have rubber marks on car. Please tell me what happened. Car was not hurt bad, should be ready for nasa race at vir by end of the month
Thanx, Larry
Larry,

Maybe you were thinking about this when you went off in T4: (This road is just before the entrance to VIR)


This looks like it was taken just after you stopped:


Armco? You were a few feet away from the Armco. I only see walls of tires. Bugeater will tell you how much Armco is to replace after we took out 3 uprights and moved the wall back about 9'.

See ya at VIR for NASA...

Mark

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