Head/Neck Restraint
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Head/Neck Restraint
Has any body out there tried the newer G Force restraint system for DE's? I am considering upgrading to a full face helmet and the G force helmet is considerably cheaper than the Bell or Simpson with the added bonus that their head & neck restraint is about 1/10 the price. I admit to being cheap, but the overall goal is still protection. Any feedback?
Here you go John: http://www.saferacer.com/gfsrheresy.html
Here you go John: http://www.saferacer.com/gfsrheresy.html
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I can't see how the device fastens to your harness. I personally like the R3 because it has a strap that secures it to your body, then is reinforced by your harnesses. If the little red gizmo is the only thing securing the straps, I'd be concerned about how well it would stay in place in a side-impact.
That being said, anything is better than nothing, and the price is certainly right. I wore a Hutchins for 2 years before everybody decided it was worthless. Still have it around the shop. Amazing how quickly rules and safety requirments change.
That being said, anything is better than nothing, and the price is certainly right. I wore a Hutchins for 2 years before everybody decided it was worthless. Still have it around the shop. Amazing how quickly rules and safety requirments change.
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One of the websites for these safety devices showed an impact test results. The G-Force was made to look pretty bad so I never got one for my G-Force helmet. I hope their new one is a drastic improvement.
One of the more popular devices comes in an economical version made of kevlar webbing instead of steel with shocks or whatever. As I recall about $300 instead of the $900 version. Not great but better than nothing.
One of the more popular devices comes in an economical version made of kevlar webbing instead of steel with shocks or whatever. As I recall about $300 instead of the $900 version. Not great but better than nothing.
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I purchased the G-Force SRS-1 system over the winter. I haven't tried it while driving, but the static tests do seem to stop my head from traveling forward much. The part that stops the movement is a 12" long fiberglass rod (About 1/2" dai.) that gets trapped below the shoulder straps. If your harness is not set up properly, the system will not work. Using it with the Sport seats looks like it will work, but I would not use it with the Z-06 seats. The rod would be likely to slip out from under the belts. I'll try to post a better report about the system after my next track day.
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I've been wearing the g-force thing for 2 yrs in My SSC car.
It is just a bit restrictive for side vision. It takes a serious effort to rotate your head more than about 5 deg and 10 deg is about all there is. Beyond that it's not too bad. What you get for what you pay is not too good but a Hans just is not in the budget.
PS It does seem to make me just a bit more aggressive.
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It is just a bit restrictive for side vision. It takes a serious effort to rotate your head more than about 5 deg and 10 deg is about all there is. Beyond that it's not too bad. What you get for what you pay is not too good but a Hans just is not in the budget.
PS It does seem to make me just a bit more aggressive.
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Just my thoughts!
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The way I see it working is it will keep you chin from rotating forward? How does this device keep your head from moving in a forward parallel plane with the road surface?
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I bought an Isaac Link system today, its their economy model for $295. It is a system that fits on the shoulder harness straps and has attach anchors for the tethers that can be put on any helmet. Its numbers equal the Hans in testing. The fact I can use my existing helmet is a big plus. If you get a G-Force SRS-1 for instance you have to buy a compatible helmet whcih kicks the cost over $500.
Isaac's high dollar units use dampers instead of webbing and it beat the Hans by a significant margin. I emailed some questions to them and got an immeadiate phone call, seems like an on the ball operation.
http://www.isaacdirect.com/
Isaac's high dollar units use dampers instead of webbing and it beat the Hans by a significant margin. I emailed some questions to them and got an immeadiate phone call, seems like an on the ball operation.
http://www.isaacdirect.com/
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Does a neck collar not do any good? I was about to order one, I know that somebody has very eloquently stated why the HANS is worth it, but I really just don't have the money for it. But I can swing a $40 neck collar.
Also, I can't recall seeing anybody at TWS using a HANS device.
Also, I can't recall seeing anybody at TWS using a HANS device.
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Does a neck collar not do any good? I was about to order one, I know that somebody has very eloquently stated why the HANS is worth it, but I really just don't have the money for it. But I can swing a $40 neck collar.
Also, I can't recall seeing anybody at TWS using a HANS device.
Also, I can't recall seeing anybody at TWS using a HANS device.
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FWIW I bought a HANS recently and used it for the first time last weekend. For anybody who's reluctant to buy one because they're concerned about it limiting mobility, I can say that it definitely does limit your ability to turn your head, BUT it didn't bother me at all on the track. I could turn my head enough to look through every turn to my track out points. In fact, while on track I completely forgot I had it on. I imagine it could get to be an issue on a tight hairpin, and it's certainly a bit of an annoyance rolling around the paddock (quick and easy enough to unclip, though, in those cases), but IMO well worth it.
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I don't think a neck collar is much help, but it does a good job helping to support the helmet while going through the corners!
I looked at the ISAAC® on the web thanks to the link. I am very impressed with what I saw. I always considered a HANS, but never had the budget even know I know I need something to be safer... Thanks for the post with the link. I'd be interested to hear more comments about its use.
I looked at the ISAAC® on the web thanks to the link. I am very impressed with what I saw. I always considered a HANS, but never had the budget even know I know I need something to be safer... Thanks for the post with the link. I'd be interested to hear more comments about its use.
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I don't think a neck collar is much help, but it does a good job helping to support the helmet while going through the corners!
I looked at the ISAAC® on the web thanks to the link. I am very impressed with what I saw. I always considered a HANS, but never had the budget even know I know I need something to be safer... Thanks for the post with the link. I'd be interested to hear more comments about its use.
I looked at the ISAAC® on the web thanks to the link. I am very impressed with what I saw. I always considered a HANS, but never had the budget even know I know I need something to be safer... Thanks for the post with the link. I'd be interested to hear more comments about its use.
Very interesting link. Anybody else have ay experience with the ISASC system?